Personally I think it's better to have translated web even if it doesn't
look professional. I understood that it would be interesting that more
people participated to translation ?
Milan if you find mistakes of mine (I surely do !) better correcting
them I wouldn't be angry... But telling me that it would be better not
to translate them is a bit too much. Maybe in your professional position
you say what you want but with people who are doing there best to
improved translation I think it is displaced !
Regards
Henri
Le 08/10/2016 à 16:59, Ismael Venegas Castelló a écrit :
*I got a mail today and I published a response, but I'm not sure why
it doesn't show up here, so I'll paste it verbatim:*
Hi Milan!
Thank you for stating your concern,
>but I'm worried that we completely destroy the professional aspect of
the website
I agree with you but, I think that we need a banner in the julia
website stating that the translations are *not *done by professionals
but by volunteers and also inviting them to join and improve the
translations in their own languages.
I'll activate another option that is more strict, in which only
reviewed translations will be able to be shown in the website (as
opposed to only translated but un reviewed ones), but anyway, since
this is a collaborative effort we need to work as a team. For example
Transifex doesn't prohibit someone of reviewing his/her own
translations, even when I've tried to make clear that this is not a
good practice, there is no way to enforce it.
However, please join the French team and un review, comment and
correct the strings in order to improve the quality, there is no other
way (other than paying for professional translations).
The team is small but growing, and the project has just started, if we
state publicly that the translations are crowd sourced by the
community and an ongoing progress, then I'm sure no one will expect
them to be of professional grade yet, and no reputation will be affected.
Expecting professional translation from the get go, is unrealistic
without investing money into the project. And waiting, g for all the
crowd sourced translations to become of professional grade, would kill
the motivation of the contributors, as this has already happened, the
project was stagnant for 1+ year (with the infrastructure already
being ready and tested). If the project had continued, maybe today we
would already have much more complete translations of near
professional grade.
So I think the best way to approach this is not to be conservative,
but to be open and transparent, so we can get more help and others
can't be disappointed for the current status, and the reputation of
all, not only of the Julia project, but also of the contributors that
are willing to translate for us, remains intact and even become more
positive.
Think synergy!
Regards,
Ismael Venegas Castelló
2016-10-08 8:46 GMT-05:00 Milan Bouchet-Valat <>:
Hi!
I really appreciate the progress of translations of the website. But
I've just realized the French version of the site contains lots of
mistakes, including incorrect translations, typos, and case issues. In
some cases one cannot understand what the sentence means.
Can I recommend extra care when translating Julia? Typically,
translations shouldn't be done by a single person, and should only be
published after having been reviewed by another contributor. The rule
should be that it's better to have an English sentence than a broken
approximately translated one. Translations can do more harm than good
without a lot of care.
Sorry for sounding too negative, but I'm worried that we completely
destroy the professional aspect of the website by having random people
do weird things in each language no core developer understands. It's
very hard to keep control over that. Do you know whether the French
team is organized yet?
Regards
Le vendredi 30 septembre 2016 à 08:30 +0200, a
écrit :
> Hi Ismael
> That's it. I8 I have a little github with forks to put my
examples. I
> read gitter and saw that most of translation was on stating now.
> I found the search field on translation page.
> Thanks
> Best Henri
>
> Le 29/09/2016 à 23:48, Ismael Venegas Castelló a écrit :
> > Hello Henri!
> >
> > Just a question, you are aishenri in GitHub right? Because I
> > answered this same question at julia-i18n chat room at Gitter,
just
> > want to make sure, I don't want to leave any question unanswered.
> >
> >
https://gitter.im/JuliaLangEs/julia-i18n?at=57ed5568be5dec755007a21
<https://gitter.im/JuliaLangEs/julia-i18n?at=57ed5568be5dec755007a21>
> > c
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ismael Venegas Castelló
> >
> >
> > > Hi Ismael,
> > > I would like to translate "home" first, but I noticed it's
> > > difficult to find all text about it ?
> > > Is there a way to research a precise text ?
> > > I already translated a good part of it but I need to see it so
> > > that I can be sûre of that.
> > >
> > > Best
> > > Henri
> > > Le 28/09/2016 à 11:54, henri....@gmail.com
<mailto:henri....@gmail.com> a écrit :
> > > > I am wondering if one must write the html mark when
translating
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > Le 28/09/2016 à 10:26, Ismael Venegas Castelló a écrit :
> > > > > Hello Henri!
> > > > >
> > > > > Currently French is about 0% translated, we are adding to
> > > > > production the languages that at minimum have the home page
> > > > > translated 90 %, but you can see the current progress of all
> > > > > the languages in the staging site here:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://julialanges.github.io <http://julialanges.github.io/>
> > > > > You can see here a video I did tonight, were I am
> > > > > translating, in order to give a taste of the workflow
> > > > > involved in doing this with Transifex Live.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please let me know if you have any doubt and I will gladly
> > > > > help you as much as I can and thank you very much for your
> > > > > interest and support to this project.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Ismael Venegas Castelló
> > > > >
> > > > > > I went to french translation startet to translate but
can't
> > > > > > see it on julialang.org <http://julialang.org/> ?
> > > > > > it's not actualized ?
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
El miércoles, 28 de septiembre de 2016, 2:49:32 (UTC-5), Henri Girard
escribió:
I went to french translation startet to translate but can't see it
on julialang.org <http://julialang.org> ?
it's not actualized ?
Regards
