2015-01-11 19:40 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: > Hi, Nick. Thanks for the feedback. I’m know there are some differences with > 3d panning & zooming that could potentially be an issue, but I’m a little > confused, though. When you say pinch, do you mean a trackpad?
When I say "pinch" it was just to indicate the smallest ammount, one "click". >Are we still talking about the ThinkPad laptop here? If so this is very >interesting. Could someone educate me about any current support for trackpads >in windows or Linux? I was not aware of any. > > Garth > > >> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:40 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I did note something strange with this branch. When I try to scroll >> zoom in the 3D viewer regardles of setting it is like it is zooming >> way too much. When I just zoom one pinch I can't see my board. But on >> my normal branch it works fine. >> >> 2015-01-10 18:23 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >>> Thanks very much for trying this out, Nick. To be honest, it’s been so >>> long since I used a ThinkPad joy nub that I hadn’t considered this at all. >>> It’s good that it seemed just a switch in behavior of key modifiers because >>> it really isn’t. It changes the way panning is done altogether, doing the >>> panning in the event handlers instead of firing cmd events. I think my >>> primary concern for non OS X users is that the panning acceleration would >>> seem way out of line with expectations, something that's fixable but >>> something I can’t test. >>> >>> Also, as I said previously, it changes some longstanding behavior with >>> regard to modifier keys and panning direction, but I consider the old >>> behavior wrong so I might have to convince folks. I’m not sure what the >>> timeline is for a stable release so I’m not sure whether to wait until >>> after to try to get this in. It really needs some Windows/Linux testing, >>> but there’s not much incentive for it. >>> >>> Garth >>> >>> >>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I just tried this on linux with a thinkpad nipple, seems to work just >>>> fine. Without the option enabled I had to use shift to do panning. I >>>> did not read the patch, but to me it seems like this was just a switch >>>> in behaivour of using zooming for scroll or having to hit ctrl or >>>> shift (depinding on what mode was set in settings). It does not seem >>>> to break any behaviour I usually expect. >>>> >>>> 2014-11-05 9:18 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >>>>> Thanks for trying this out, guys. I’d also like to see this get into the >>>>> mainline, but I think there are a few hurdles to get over first. The >>>>> pinch-to-zoom should be easy; It’s completely optional and has to be >>>>> compiled in so there’s no impact to other platforms, but as I’ve said, >>>>> it’s less useful by itself. The issue for the rest is that it changes >>>>> some longstanding behavior, and I’m pretty sure just the idea will annoy >>>>> some folks. >>>>> >>>>> I’ve seen very little complaint about the large mousewheel panning steps >>>>> on other platforms aside from a couple of ancient bugs. I think I’d be >>>>> hard pressed to convince anyone to change something that isn’t perceived >>>>> as broken. I’ve tried not to do anything egregious here, and I tested >>>>> this with a couple of plain old mice, but I have no way to evaluate this >>>>> on the other platforms. Does either of you have access to Windows or >>>>> Linux boxes to try this on? >>>>> >>>>> To me, the large panning steps make little sense for a mousewheel, and >>>>> even less so on a trackpad. This is a big deal on a platform where every >>>>> system in the past several years has sold with input devices with x/y >>>>> scrolling and precise deltas (effectively trackpads). Maybe not so much >>>>> on other platforms, I don’t know. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> >>>>> Garth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I also really like this patch. Excellent work. >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam Wolf >>>>>> Cofounder and Engineer >>>>>> W&L >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> works perfect for me… with trackpad and also Magic/Mighty Mouse (without >>>>>> pinch-to-zoom for the mice of course). >>>>>> Tested with the pinch-to-zoom wxWidgets patch on 3.0.2, KiCad changes >>>>>> merged into 5249. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would really love to see this getting merged to main line. >>>>>> It not only makes panning more OSX like, but also is a great usability >>>>>> improvement (at least on OSX where nowadays all mice/trackpads do have >>>>>> x/y scrolling capability). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Bernhard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31.10.2014, at 18:45, Garth Corral <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, all >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I’ve pushed a branch containing some changes that I use to make kicad >>>>>>> more livable for me on OS X. This is mostly for Apple Magic Trackpad >>>>>>> users, but I’d be curious to hear from mousewheel users on OS X, or >>>>>>> even Linux and Windows users if they were inclined to try out these >>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The changes are basically in two parts. The first is optional and >>>>>>> requires an additional patch to wxWidgets on OS X, and that kicad be >>>>>>> compiled with a feature macro turned on (updated instructions in >>>>>>> compiling/mac-osx.txt). This enables pinch-to-zoom. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The rest does not require any changes in the way things are built. >>>>>>> This adds a preference for the default mousewheel function and changes >>>>>>> the way panning is done; It does not change the way mousewheel zooming >>>>>>> behaves (but perhaps should). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For best results on a trackpad I recommend compiling with the >>>>>>> pinch-to-zoom support and checking “Use mousewheel to pan” in the >>>>>>> preferences of the various apps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you’re a Mac trackpad user and have a spare few moments, please give >>>>>>> these changes a try and let me know how they work for you. They’re in >>>>>>> lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Garth >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> > _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
