Ah! Okay, this makes more sense. I will have a look and see what I can figure out. I think there is some work to be done with the 3d viewer anyway because of the issues I mentioned in another thread about how preferences are handled in kicad. Unfortunately I don’t really have a good way to test on non-OS X platforms but I will try to scrape something together. Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully this will ultimately help out on the OS X side.
Other than the 3d viewer are you seeing any issues with mousewheel panning/zooming? Thanks again, Garth > On Jan 11, 2015, at 12:20 PM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: > > Sorry for the ambiguity, but it was just using a normal mouse with a > scroll wheel. > > On my trackpoint I can hit a middlebutton and then use the nipple to > scrool on both the x and y directions. It is sort of making a > direction vector. With this I can pan using your patch. Or with shift > or ctrl in normal (product) mode I can also do that. > > Ohh, I now see that it is panning (not zooming) in the 3D view, for > one scroll click it is changing dy with 6. So it is not zooming, but > panning in the y direction only. The dy dx readout is on the bottom > toolbar in the 3D view window. > > 2015-01-11 19:40 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >> Hi, Nick. Thanks for the feedback. I’m know there are some differences with >> 3d panning & zooming that could potentially be an issue, but I’m a little >> confused, though. When you say pinch, do you mean a trackpad? Are we still >> talking about the ThinkPad laptop here? If so this is very interesting. >> Could someone educate me about any current support for trackpads in windows >> or Linux? I was not aware of any. >> >> Garth >> >> >>> On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:40 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I did note something strange with this branch. When I try to scroll >>> zoom in the 3D viewer regardles of setting it is like it is zooming >>> way too much. When I just zoom one pinch I can't see my board. But on >>> my normal branch it works fine. >>> >>> 2015-01-10 18:23 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >>>> Thanks very much for trying this out, Nick. To be honest, it’s been so >>>> long since I used a ThinkPad joy nub that I hadn’t considered this at all. >>>> It’s good that it seemed just a switch in behavior of key modifiers >>>> because it really isn’t. It changes the way panning is done altogether, >>>> doing the panning in the event handlers instead of firing cmd events. I >>>> think my primary concern for non OS X users is that the panning >>>> acceleration would seem way out of line with expectations, something >>>> that's fixable but something I can’t test. >>>> >>>> Also, as I said previously, it changes some longstanding behavior with >>>> regard to modifier keys and panning direction, but I consider the old >>>> behavior wrong so I might have to convince folks. I’m not sure what the >>>> timeline is for a stable release so I’m not sure whether to wait until >>>> after to try to get this in. It really needs some Windows/Linux testing, >>>> but there’s not much incentive for it. >>>> >>>> Garth >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I just tried this on linux with a thinkpad nipple, seems to work just >>>>> fine. Without the option enabled I had to use shift to do panning. I >>>>> did not read the patch, but to me it seems like this was just a switch >>>>> in behaivour of using zooming for scroll or having to hit ctrl or >>>>> shift (depinding on what mode was set in settings). It does not seem >>>>> to break any behaviour I usually expect. >>>>> >>>>> 2014-11-05 9:18 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >>>>>> Thanks for trying this out, guys. I’d also like to see this get into >>>>>> the mainline, but I think there are a few hurdles to get over first. >>>>>> The pinch-to-zoom should be easy; It’s completely optional and has to be >>>>>> compiled in so there’s no impact to other platforms, but as I’ve said, >>>>>> it’s less useful by itself. The issue for the rest is that it changes >>>>>> some longstanding behavior, and I’m pretty sure just the idea will annoy >>>>>> some folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve seen very little complaint about the large mousewheel panning steps >>>>>> on other platforms aside from a couple of ancient bugs. I think I’d be >>>>>> hard pressed to convince anyone to change something that isn’t perceived >>>>>> as broken. I’ve tried not to do anything egregious here, and I tested >>>>>> this with a couple of plain old mice, but I have no way to evaluate this >>>>>> on the other platforms. Does either of you have access to Windows or >>>>>> Linux boxes to try this on? >>>>>> >>>>>> To me, the large panning steps make little sense for a mousewheel, and >>>>>> even less so on a trackpad. This is a big deal on a platform where >>>>>> every system in the past several years has sold with input devices with >>>>>> x/y scrolling and precise deltas (effectively trackpads). Maybe not so >>>>>> much on other platforms, I don’t know. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again, >>>>>> >>>>>> Garth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I also really like this patch. Excellent work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam Wolf >>>>>>> Cofounder and Engineer >>>>>>> W&L >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier >>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> works perfect for me… with trackpad and also Magic/Mighty Mouse >>>>>>> (without pinch-to-zoom for the mice of course). >>>>>>> Tested with the pinch-to-zoom wxWidgets patch on 3.0.2, KiCad changes >>>>>>> merged into 5249. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I would really love to see this getting merged to main line. >>>>>>> It not only makes panning more OSX like, but also is a great usability >>>>>>> improvement (at least on OSX where nowadays all mice/trackpads do have >>>>>>> x/y scrolling capability). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Bernhard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 31.10.2014, at 18:45, Garth Corral <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, all >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’ve pushed a branch containing some changes that I use to make kicad >>>>>>>> more livable for me on OS X. This is mostly for Apple Magic Trackpad >>>>>>>> users, but I’d be curious to hear from mousewheel users on OS X, or >>>>>>>> even Linux and Windows users if they were inclined to try out these >>>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The changes are basically in two parts. The first is optional and >>>>>>>> requires an additional patch to wxWidgets on OS X, and that kicad be >>>>>>>> compiled with a feature macro turned on (updated instructions in >>>>>>>> compiling/mac-osx.txt). This enables pinch-to-zoom. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The rest does not require any changes in the way things are built. >>>>>>>> This adds a preference for the default mousewheel function and changes >>>>>>>> the way panning is done; It does not change the way mousewheel zooming >>>>>>>> behaves (but perhaps should). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For best results on a trackpad I recommend compiling with the >>>>>>>> pinch-to-zoom support and checking “Use mousewheel to pan” in the >>>>>>>> preferences of the various apps. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you’re a Mac trackpad user and have a spare few moments, please >>>>>>>> give these changes a try and let me know how they work for you. >>>>>>>> They’re in lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Garth >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > Post to : [email protected] > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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