Hi, Nick. Thanks for the feedback. I’m know there are some differences with 3d panning & zooming that could potentially be an issue, but I’m a little confused, though. When you say pinch, do you mean a trackpad? Are we still talking about the ThinkPad laptop here? If so this is very interesting. Could someone educate me about any current support for trackpads in windows or Linux? I was not aware of any.
Garth > On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:40 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: > > I did note something strange with this branch. When I try to scroll > zoom in the 3D viewer regardles of setting it is like it is zooming > way too much. When I just zoom one pinch I can't see my board. But on > my normal branch it works fine. > > 2015-01-10 18:23 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >> Thanks very much for trying this out, Nick. To be honest, it’s been so long >> since I used a ThinkPad joy nub that I hadn’t considered this at all. It’s >> good that it seemed just a switch in behavior of key modifiers because it >> really isn’t. It changes the way panning is done altogether, doing the >> panning in the event handlers instead of firing cmd events. I think my >> primary concern for non OS X users is that the panning acceleration would >> seem way out of line with expectations, something that's fixable but >> something I can’t test. >> >> Also, as I said previously, it changes some longstanding behavior with >> regard to modifier keys and panning direction, but I consider the old >> behavior wrong so I might have to convince folks. I’m not sure what the >> timeline is for a stable release so I’m not sure whether to wait until after >> to try to get this in. It really needs some Windows/Linux testing, but >> there’s not much incentive for it. >> >> Garth >> >> >>> On Jan 10, 2015, at 6:10 AM, Nick Østergaard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I just tried this on linux with a thinkpad nipple, seems to work just >>> fine. Without the option enabled I had to use shift to do panning. I >>> did not read the patch, but to me it seems like this was just a switch >>> in behaivour of using zooming for scroll or having to hit ctrl or >>> shift (depinding on what mode was set in settings). It does not seem >>> to break any behaviour I usually expect. >>> >>> 2014-11-05 9:18 GMT+01:00 Garth Corral <[email protected]>: >>>> Thanks for trying this out, guys. I’d also like to see this get into the >>>> mainline, but I think there are a few hurdles to get over first. The >>>> pinch-to-zoom should be easy; It’s completely optional and has to be >>>> compiled in so there’s no impact to other platforms, but as I’ve said, >>>> it’s less useful by itself. The issue for the rest is that it changes >>>> some longstanding behavior, and I’m pretty sure just the idea will annoy >>>> some folks. >>>> >>>> I’ve seen very little complaint about the large mousewheel panning steps >>>> on other platforms aside from a couple of ancient bugs. I think I’d be >>>> hard pressed to convince anyone to change something that isn’t perceived >>>> as broken. I’ve tried not to do anything egregious here, and I tested >>>> this with a couple of plain old mice, but I have no way to evaluate this >>>> on the other platforms. Does either of you have access to Windows or Linux >>>> boxes to try this on? >>>> >>>> To me, the large panning steps make little sense for a mousewheel, and >>>> even less so on a trackpad. This is a big deal on a platform where every >>>> system in the past several years has sold with input devices with x/y >>>> scrolling and precise deltas (effectively trackpads). Maybe not so much >>>> on other platforms, I don’t know. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks again, >>>> >>>> Garth >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:39 PM, Adam Wolf <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I also really like this patch. Excellent work. >>>>> >>>>> Adam Wolf >>>>> Cofounder and Engineer >>>>> W&L >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Bernhard Stegmaier >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> works perfect for me… with trackpad and also Magic/Mighty Mouse (without >>>>> pinch-to-zoom for the mice of course). >>>>> Tested with the pinch-to-zoom wxWidgets patch on 3.0.2, KiCad changes >>>>> merged into 5249. >>>>> >>>>> I would really love to see this getting merged to main line. >>>>> It not only makes panning more OSX like, but also is a great usability >>>>> improvement (at least on OSX where nowadays all mice/trackpads do have >>>>> x/y scrolling capability). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Bernhard >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31.10.2014, at 18:45, Garth Corral <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, all >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve pushed a branch containing some changes that I use to make kicad >>>>>> more livable for me on OS X. This is mostly for Apple Magic Trackpad >>>>>> users, but I’d be curious to hear from mousewheel users on OS X, or even >>>>>> Linux and Windows users if they were inclined to try out these changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> The changes are basically in two parts. The first is optional and >>>>>> requires an additional patch to wxWidgets on OS X, and that kicad be >>>>>> compiled with a feature macro turned on (updated instructions in >>>>>> compiling/mac-osx.txt). This enables pinch-to-zoom. >>>>>> >>>>>> The rest does not require any changes in the way things are built. This >>>>>> adds a preference for the default mousewheel function and changes the >>>>>> way panning is done; It does not change the way mousewheel zooming >>>>>> behaves (but perhaps should). >>>>>> >>>>>> For best results on a trackpad I recommend compiling with the >>>>>> pinch-to-zoom support and checking “Use mousewheel to pan” in the >>>>>> preferences of the various apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you’re a Mac trackpad user and have a spare few moments, please give >>>>>> these changes a try and let me know how they work for you. They’re in >>>>>> lp:~gcorral/kicad/osx-trackpad-gestures >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks in advance, >>>>>> >>>>>> Garth >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> Post to : [email protected] >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> Post to : [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kicad-developers >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>
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