Hi Bob I too would happily see the paid support listings disappear from the koha-community.org website.
Chris On 9 August 2017 at 12:21, Bob Birchall <b...@calyx.net.au> wrote: > There we go again - 'official list' as if it has some status other than as a > yellow pages directory. I suspect the noise from the sub-continent > particularly will increase, whilst very little comes back to the project. I > think we should just get rid of that page from the website. > My 2 cents, > Bob Birchall > Calyx > > > On 09/08/17 04:26, Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate wrote: >> >> Well Chris Cormack, It will be very interesting to note that a Koha >> Service Provider with over 400 Libraries to his credit, will be removed >> from the official list, because he sent a mail to a Library informing >> about >> his Koha Services. >> >> It will be an interesting standard to be fixed for this community and to >> be >> watched closely by many in the future. >> >> It is interesting to note that while you do not rightly want to be part of >> the trouble between some service providers, you seem to be influenced by >> some of them. I hope I will be proven wrong on this point, which seems to >> be clear conclusion from what you wrote. >> >> *By the way, how do we decide that my mail to a library, a direct mail >> sent >> to them, can be termed as a spam ?* >> >> *Since when, did people start talking of their services only when someone >> asks for them ?* >> >> I trust the common sense will prevail and all of us will remain promoting >> Koha and not the fears of some people around here. >> >> By the way, my request for being listed as a Koha service provider >> (BestBook Buddies.com) is still not approved and I have resent the request >> today. >> >> Sudhir Gandotra >> >> On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 11:42 PM, Chris Cormack <chr...@catalyst.net.nz> >> wrote: >> >>> Just a quick note, unsolicited emails, or spam as it is commonly known is >>> indeed a crime in some jurisdictions. And in almost every one it is >>> against >>> convention. >>> >>> I'm not going to respond to the rest of your email which reads as a >>> personal fight between you and other Indian Koha developers/companies. >>> Please leave this kind of email off the list in future. >>> >>> And if you plan to continue to send unsolicited emails to people then I >>> think the request to remove the listing should stand >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> On 9 August 2017 5:58:37 AM NZST, "Sudhir Gandotra @ Kalculate" < >>> sud...@kalculate.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Jonathan Druart, >>>> >>>> I am rather surprised to note this mail. >>>> >>>> The only mail that I see from you to me was as below : >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> Jonathan Druart <jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> >>>> May 17 >>>> to koha >>>> >>>> Dear Sudhir Gandotra, >>>> >>>> You are receiving this email because you are listed as a paid support >>>> company on the Koha community website (https://koha-community.org/su >>>> pport/paid-support). >>>> >>>> We are updating the list of paid support companies for Koha on our >>>> community website. Please, after reading this email, either hit reply or >>>> complete the form mentioned below to confirm you are still an active >>>> support company. >>>> >>>> The next development cycle of Koha (17.11) is going to start before the >>>> month of May is out. >>>> Over the next 6 months we will be building the latest, even more >>>> awesome, >>>> release of Koha. We strongly believe that having everybody involved is >>>> fundamental to achieving this. >>>> >>>> We want to build a task force and for that, we need to know who can >>>> commit >>>> time and effort that we can count on, in order to estimate the goals we >>>> can >>>> reach. >>>> Even if you have never been involved in the Koha community but are using >>>> Koha, you can help us by committing just a few hours each month: >>>> library workers or support companies can contribute massively by >>>> providing >>>> feedback, testing patches, contributing to the documentation or by >>>> getting >>>> involved in other specific tasks. Even if you do not know how to code >>>> you >>>> can help shape the next release and improve Koha. >>>> If you want to help, or if you have specific requests for this release, >>>> please let us know by completing this form: >>>> >>>> https://framaforms.org/ready-to-help-the-koha-community-1493918217 < >>>> Just a couple of hours per month dedicated to the project is a huge >>>> help! >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Jonathan Druart on behalf of the Koha community >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> I have not replied to it, as I am usually been travelling extensively >>>> for >>>> the last 12 months, but, within our team, we are discussing as to how we >>>> can take this forward and start contributing to the Koha community in >>>> future, starting in next few months. >>>> >>>> *On the other hand, I would like to share the following with you :* >>>> >>>> >>>> As duly acknowledged by the Koha community here, we are the entity (then >>>> known as Indserve Infotech Pvt. Ltd.) that introduced Koha in India with >>>> the first commercially done Koha implementation at Delhi Pubic Library, >>>> in >>>> 2007-08, for which I can show you the formal purchase order also. >>>> Its another story that our trainee-engineer, who was trained by us on >>>> this >>>> project, left us, cheated us, took away the clients we were negotiating >>>> and >>>> harmed our work seriously, went to another company and is active on Koha >>>> even now. >>>> We were forced to lie low for a while (due to illegal actions of a large >>>> MNC against us) and restarted our activities in a big way again in 2010, >>>> and after creating over 165 clients across 15 countries, have now taken >>>> Koha to new level, whereby we are offering the complete services free of >>>> cost and this is taking us places. >>>> >>>> The amount of publicity, growth and expansion that we have done with >>>> Koha >>>> is tremendous when you see the number of clients, the spread of these >>>> clients, and their support to us because of un-breaking services. >>>> >>>> I am aware that people like Vinod Mishra and some others are quiet >>>> jealous >>>> of us and now with these free services, they are, possibly, afraid of >>>> losing their business. And, because of this, they find all kinds of >>>> excuses >>>> of speaking against us with clients and here also on the list. >>>> >>>> I see no reason for deleting our name, because, caused by such negative >>>> people, it will only give bad name to the whole of community, a cause to >>>> which we have given our full support form the very beginning. And, >>>> moreover, we have done nothing against Koha. Rather, with the number of >>>> libraries to our credit, we are among the biggest providers of Koha >>>> services. >>>> >>>> To promote our services, we do send mails to libraries and in that >>>> process, >>>> the mail went to mycpl.org also. Owen Leonard felt bad about it, wrote >>>> to >>>> me, and I replied to him with my apologies, as our intentions have >>>> solely >>>> been to promote Koha. However, there is no law or convention that says >>>> that >>>> a Koha service provider cannot send promotional mails to libraries. >>>> Please >>>> help me understand this point better, if I am missing something. >>>> >>>> I will not speak against any of them, as, that is neither my style, nor >>>> am >>>> I person driven by fears. >>>> >>>> Being a Humanist, I am aware that I need to contribute to the good of >>>> this >>>> world, that has given me my life and everything else that I have and I >>>> am >>>> very happy contributing to Linux and Koha in my own way. >>>> *I have not done much, with my more than 400 Libraries to my credit, I >>>> wonder if this is negligible.* >>>> >>>> >>>> And, for that "crime" (if that's how these people will prefer to term >>>> it), >>>> as its being labelled by some ignorant ones, if you think Koha community >>>> will be happier without me on the list, let's set the new standards. >>>> >>>> I am quiet aware that Koha is a community thing and fortunately not a >>>> personal property of anyone, and due to that fact alone, it is >>>> important, >>>> that, as a Community, we set the highest standards, which are not driven >>>> by >>>> the fears of a few ignorant ones, but by the bold-selfless actions of >>>> those >>>> who do for the society. >>>> >>>> I look forward to hearing from you on this. >>>> >>>> I assure you that, very soon, you will find me increasingly active on >>>> the >>>> list. >>>> >>>> By the way, my request of adding my new company "Best Book Buddies" to >>>> the >>>> list of service providers is pending for around a year. >>>> >>>> Sudhir Gandotra >>>> www.bestbookbuddies.com >>>> +91-9810120918 >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Druart < >>>> jonathan.dru...@bugs.koha-community.org> wrote: >>>> >>>> I have sent them several emails and they never answered. They are >>>> already >>>>> >>>>> on my list of companies to remove from the list. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 at 08:56 Owen Leonard <oleon...@myacpl.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Has anyone else received spam from "BestBookBuddies - an Initiative >>>>>> >>>>>> of: OpenLX Technologies Pvt. Ltd." ? They recently spammed me and >>>>>> everyone else on my library's contact page. >>>>>> >>>>>> If it were up to me they would be removed from the list of paid >>>>>> support providers, but I don't think the rules explicitly forbid >>>>>> sending spam. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- Owen >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Web Developer >>>>>> Athens County Public Libraries >>>>>> http://www.myacpl.org >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> >>>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >>>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> Koha mailing list http://koha-community.org >>>>> Koha@lists.katipo.co.nz >>>>> https://lists.katipo.co.nz/mailman/listinfo/koha >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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