Todd Walton wrote:

On 9/24/05, Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
How much simpler is [SSH]?

Well, I have no knowledge at all about VPNs, so I don't know how easy
or simple they are.  But SSH is *very* simple.  Install it on your
comptuer (apt-get openssh?) and on the other computer.  Make the ssh
server be running on the receiving computer ('/etc/init.d/sshd start'
on Gentoo).  Then type 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' and it asks
you for the password and you're in.

The last sentence is somewhat unclear to me. Is 'ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]' (also unclear to me) to be done on the receiving computer or on mine? Something I wish man pages would do is give more examples and explain what the examples do. It usually explains things in such a seemingly cryptic way.

"man ssh" works on mine. Doesn't that mean I have it already? ("man ssh" makes ssh look *very* complicated, but then again, I only understand about half of it, if even that.)


Surely you've used ssh or telnet before?

Never.


If you only need the command line on the remote computer, SSH is most
likely simpler than setting up a virtual private network.  If you need
to address the other computer as if it were  connected to your router,
then a VPN is what you need.  I'm guessing you are of the former,
SSH-is-sufficient, situation.

What is the difference?  (This is *not* a rhetorical question.)

When I am on her pc, I usually log in with my own login which then gives me a gnome session. Most of what I do there is done in a virtual terminal. But there are also a few graphical programs that I run. Often I need to do things as root (using "su -" to do it) like to modify files and use yum. On rare occasion I need to "su otheruser -" to modify their files. It would be nice, while logged in as myself, to be able to tell gtkpod (or some other gui program) to run as another user (which is something I would like to know how to do while physicly on their pc). Occasionally, I have felt the need to reboot the pc, which automatically comes back up to the graphical login prompt. (Occasionally, I have felt the need to actually turn the pc off completely for a few seconds, but I can ask someone to physicly turn it on assuming someone is there.) I doubt I would ever have the need to transfer files between her pc and mine, although it would be nice to have that ability. Usually, any file transfer would be downloading files from the web.

I do not know if this is something better suited to a VPN or sufficiently handled by SSH.

I would like to know how to do this not only for my friend's pc, but later for my mom's. I want to get her set up with linux and I would like to be able to do maintenance. She and I are both on dialup. She is in Missouri whereas I am in San Diego. My friend is in San Diego also.


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