On Sunday 25 June 2006 11:43 pm, Stewart Stremler wrote:
[snip fun platica]
> Heh. True. But I can't stop tilting at windmills.
>
> > Of course these Javascript users will pay a price, but the vast
> > majority of them will not even know it and will not care. You on
> > the otherhand are almost paralyzed in this arena by your superior
> > knowledge.
>
> Sometimes. Sometimes it's quite liberating.... I can quickly decide
> that I'm not going to bother with a website at all, instead of wasting
> my time being distracted. It's like HTML email -- I quickly realize
> that I don't need to bother reading it, and I can move on to other
> things.
Well Javascript != Linux.
I told my kids, "No more Windows." I was sick of all the time
it cost me to keep their boxes running. Kids will click on anything
and I have not found a way to tell them what is good and what
is evil. So we are now 100% Linux and I do not spend a lot
of time worrying about viruses or spyware.
The Yahoo chat clients and webcams that exist for Linux
work just fine so they are happy.
Are we vulnerable to a Javascript attack? Probably. Do I
worry about it? Not much. Will it happen? Probably? Will it
happen several times a week like when I was trying to keep
a Windows box going? I doubt it.
All of this is pragmatics as far as I am concerned. I understand
the ideological issues but they are far less important to me than
the simple pragmatics. My Linux boxes work for weeks often months
on end even if I enable Javascript so I am a happy camper with
Linux and Javascript.
Obviously this situation can change so I monitor it.
[snip Thucydides]
> On the other hand, I don't have _half_ the aggravation that my coworkers
> do -- despite my apparant moaning all the time. They get cool
> websites... and wiped hard drives. They get dancing bunnies, and
> spyware reporting their every move. They get to save three seconds by
> not clicking on an icon... and run thirty-five trojans in the background
> at all times.
Well I suspect most of that agervation is caused by their using Windows
and very little, if my experience is a guide, very little is from Javascript.
[snip]
> But if you want the world to change, you can't go along with the way the
> world is... you have to be a little grain of sand, and hope that one day
> you'll end up in a cog... or an eye.
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable
one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
progress depends on the unreasonable man."
Revolutionist's handbook,
George Bernard Shaw
1856-1950
GBS is a great source of quotes. One of the few who gives
Sam Clemens a run for his money. See
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mark_Twain
BobLQ
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