On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 12:01:06PM -0700, Michael O'Keefe wrote:
> >>Anyone, even you and me, labeled as a "terrorist" can be imprisoned 
> >>without due process according to the federal government. So far, the 
> >>courts have backed this up.
> >
> >Except these are people we've captured shooting at our soldiers in
> >faraway deserts.  I'll be worried when US citizens are grabbed up on US
> >soil, not charged with anything, and not allowed legal representation.
> 
> You mean like if they pick up a Timothy McVeigh or Teddy Kaczynski ?

The guys who liked to blow things and people up???  Are you seriously
suggesting they shouldn't have been arrested?  Or that they were
"disappeared" and stooges filled in for them at their trials?  Both got
full due process.

> I too wait for the day this happens, and ppl realise that there 
> shouldn't be a distinction between whether it "Achmed" was overseas 
> firing at troops, or putting bombs in local cities. Due process is due 
> process

Due process is due process... but there's no such thing for non-US
citizens in a foreign country.  Nor should there be.  The US doesn't,
and can't, make the rules for everyone.

I believe that a non-US citizen grabbed up on our soil should be subject
to all civil due process.  Same with a US citizen grabbed somewhere
else.  But I do not agree that every raghead that picks up a rifle to
plink away at our soldiers should get it.  If they survive their little
adventure, that's already far more than they deserve.

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