On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 11:37:08AM -0700, Paul G. Allen wrote: > Tom Gal wrote: > > >>> > >>> "... one nation, under surveillance ..." > >> > >>We didn't just defeat the Soviet Union in the Cold War, we became them. > >> > > > >Yeah, except we live in a nation where only the defense can appeal > >(russia only the PROSECUTION can appeal), people are shamlessly > >subjugated for protesting, speaking openly whether through print or > >voice, nobody cares if people are tortured, and the president can't be > >confronted by the courts, rather the courts are an instrument of > >supression for the president. Maybe you wanna back that statment up? > >I'll spend my time being happy for what we have....... > > > > > > One small example. This just in from CNN: > > '-- President Bush today acknowledged that U.S. authorities have held > suspected terrorists in secret CIA prisons around the world and said > information obtained from them "has saved innocent lives."' > > Anyone, even you and me, labeled as a "terrorist" can be imprisoned without > due process according to the federal government. So far, the courts have > backed this up.
Except these are people we've captured shooting at our soldiers in faraway deserts. I'll be worried when US citizens are grabbed up on US soil, not charged with anything, and not allowed legal representation. When Achmed gets thrown in Gitmo... I don't really care. And Achmed ought to be thanking Allah that he gets three squares a day and all sorts of "tolerance" for his beliefs instead of the bullet in the back of the head an awful lot of other countries would give him and that he so richly deserves. -- *********************************************************************** * John Oliver http://www.john-oliver.net/ * * * *********************************************************************** -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
