begin  quoting Bob La Quey as of Tue, Jan 09, 2007 at 02:18:11AM -0800:
[snip]
> BTW, I hear this "programming in anger" phrase from time to
> time. The phrase strikes me as juvenile. Me, I believe in programing
> for fun if I am going to be juvenile. Life is too short to be angry. One
> needs far more serious reasons than programming to be angry.

There's a viewpoint. Not how I would have interpreted the phrase...

I've used the "...in anger" construct to mean that the described
skill was used for non-trivial stuff, where failure would result
in swearing (at a minimum) or some actual stress.  Term-project
sized programs and on up, basically.

I don't actually turn red in the face, sputter, or such... although,
with C++, I probably do come close. (Stroustroup is a smart guy. C++
is one of the reasons I never buy the argument "But some smart guys
think that way." Being smart doesn't make you sensible.)

But yes, coding should be fun. If it isn't fun, find a different
language, better suited to your personal quirks.

>                                                              Forth
> has always been more fun than damn near any other environment I
> ever worked in.

For me:

Alone, non-trivial Forth programs turned out to be pretty boring.

Programming _with_ someone, Forth was an absolute blast.

I suspect my memory stack isn't deep enough to handle Forth by
myself; I need to either borrow more storage from another's brain,
or loan my pitiful stack to another.

-- 
By the time I finish documenting forth code, I could've written it in pascal.
Stewart Stremler


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