On Fri, Jul 20, 2007 at 02:21:58PM -0700, James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >..
> >> X Received: from ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com
> >> X  (ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com        [66.75.162.133])        by 
> >> sparkplug.kernel-panic.org
> >> X  (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CDF97ACB      for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Fri,
> >> X  20 Jul 2007 04:16:42 -0700 (PDT)
> >> X Received: from sonya.localdomain
> >> X  (cpe-66-75-46-141.san.res.rr.com        [66.75.46.141]) by 
> >> ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com
> >> X  (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6KBGeIF013120; Fri,
> >> X  20 Jul 2007 04:16:40 -0700 (PDT)
> >> X Received: from sonya.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
> >> X  by sonya.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l6K773ef017008; Fri,
> >> X  20 Jul 2007 00:07:23 -0700
> >> X Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED])       by sonya.localdomain 
> >> (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit)
> >> X  id l6K772Za017006; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:07:02 -0700
> >> X Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:07:02 -0700
> >> X From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> X Subject: Re: The Greek Cell Phone Tapping Caper
> >> X In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > ...
> > I saw two problems Thursday night, but not what you describe.
> > The preceding message made mutt hang for about 30 seconds while
> > sending.  Then it took 4 hours to get from roadrunner to sparkplug.
> > Also, their DNS stopped resolving pop-server.san.rr.com [66.75.160.45]
> > about a minute after mutt stopped hanging.
> > 
> 
> Hmmm, that does look like a different problem.
> 
> But I think you misstated the location of your delay.
> Trying to diagnose your data:
>   sparky got it 20 Jul 2007 04:16:42 -0700 (PDT) .. 4:16:42am from RR
>   RR got it 20 Jul 2007 04:16:40 -0700 (PDT) .. 4:16:40am from sonya
>   sonya got it 20 Jul 2007 00:07:23 -0700 .. 12:07:23am from _itself_
>   (which got the submission from scs at Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:07:02 -0700)
> 
> Evidently, sonya is your workstation, and is running smtp.

True.

>   ==> someone correct me if I am misinterpreting this
> 
> There is a 20 second delay from your (mutt) submission through some
> internal processing (for what? maybe waiting for connection to RR? maybe
> mutt tries pop before smtp?).

sonya was running mutt and smtp, but was otherwise fairly
idle. mutt hung, perhaps for those same 20 seconds. mutt normally only
hangs for a fraction of a second when I send.

> Then (assuming clocks are right) there is a 4 hour(+) delay getting from
> sonya to RR. That sounds like a RR smtp downtime, maybe?
> 
> Once it got to RR, it seemed to proceed ok the rest of the way,
> including emission from the list via east-coast-RR to west-coast-RR and
> sitting in the pop-server until you retrieved it at noon.
(It sat in the pop-server because I don't fetch mail regularly, only
when I actually want to read it.)

This makes me curious whether my message spent the 4 hours waiting
on Sonya for RR to finish receiving it, or whether it spent 4 hours
in some spool or queue at RR before getting its first RR timestamp.

Thanks
Stewart Strait


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