[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 21, 2007 at 09:56:02AM -0700, James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> ..
>>>> Once it got to RR, it seemed to proceed ok the rest of the way,
>>>> including emission from the list via east-coast-RR to west-coast-RR and
>>>> sitting in the pop-server until you retrieved it at noon.
>>> (It sat in the pop-server because I don't fetch mail regularly, only
>>> when I actually want to read it.)
>> Yes, I neglected to say "..as it is supposed to"
> It sounds like I understand this part.
>>> This makes me curious whether my message spent the 4 hours waiting
>>> on Sonya for RR to finish receiving it, or whether it spent 4 hours
>>> in some spool or queue at RR before getting its first RR timestamp.
>> Perhaps there's some clue in your /var/log/maillog or /var/log/messages?
>>
>
> Yes, there's something in /var/log/maillog (a file which I've unfortunately
> never looked at before in my life). If I'm interpreting the log
> correctly, RR kept refusing the message because their DNS was down or
> broken and couldn't resolve kernel-panic.org.
> Another possibility is that even though their nameserver and mail relay
> seem to be the same machine it couldn't resolve its own name or
> an alias(??).
>
> Here is the relevant part of the log, somewhat reformatted.
> My attempts at explanation are in braces.
>
> Jul 20 00:07:03 sonya sendmail[17006]: l6K772Za017006:
> from=scs, size=616, class=0, nrcpts=2,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> {I'm not sure what this was.}
>
> Jul 20 00:07:48 sonya sendmail[17008]: l6K773ef017008:
> from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, size=720, class=0, nrcpts=2,
> msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]
> {I'm not sure what this was.}
>
> Jul 20 00:07:48 sonya sendmail[17006]: l6K772Za017006:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED],
> ctladdr=scs (501/501), delay=00:00:46, xdelay=00:00:45, mailer=relay,
> pri=60470, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0,
> stat=Sent (l6K773ef017008 Message accepted for delivery)
> {mutt to sendmail?}
>
> Jul 20 00:09:23 sonya sendmail[17010]: l6K773ef017008:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (501/501),
> delay=00:02:00, xdelay=00:01:35, mailer=relay,
> pri=60573, relay=orngca-mls06.dc.rr.com, dsn=4.0.0,
> stat=Deferred: Name server: orngca-mls06.dc.rr.com:
> host name lookup failure
> {RR DNS down; can't resolve kernel-panic.org?}
>
> {2 more of these omitted}
>
> Jul 20 02:50:23 sonya sendmail[17098]: l6K773ef017008:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (501/501),
> delay=02:43:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay,
> pri=330573, relay=orngca-mls06.dc.rr.com, dsn=4.0.0,
> stat=Deferred: Name server: orngca-mls06.dc.rr.com:
> host name lookup failure
> {RR DNS still down; can't resolve kernel-panic.org?}
>
> Jul 20 03:49:34 sonya sendmail[17103]: l6K773ef017008:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (501/501),
> delay=03:42:11, xdelay=00:00:06, mailer=relay,
> pri=420573, relay=orngca-mls06.dc.rr.com. [66.75.160.20], dsn=2.0.0,
> stat=Sent (l6KBGeIF013120 Message accepted for delivery)
> {Message finally reaches RR.}
I don't have any additional insight, but your speculations seem reasonable.
==> I wonder if someone more experienced with email might comment
specifically on those log messages.
>
> The header lines again for reference:
>
>> X Received: from ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com
>> X (ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com [66.75.162.133]) by sparkplug.kernel-panic.org
>> X (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CDF97ACB for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>> X Fri,
>> X 20 Jul 2007 04:16:42 -0700 (PDT)
>> X Received: from sonya.localdomain
>> X (cpe-66-75-46-141.san.res.rr.com [66.75.46.141]) by
>> X ms-smtp-01.socal.rr.com
>> X (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id l6KBGeIF013120; Fri,
>> X 20 Jul 2007 04:16:40 -0700 (PDT)
>> X Received: from sonya.localdomain (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])
>> X by sonya.localdomain (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id l6K773ef017008; Fri,
>> X 20 Jul 2007 00:07:23 -0700
>> X Received: (from [EMAIL PROTECTED]) by sonya.localdomain
>> (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit)
>> X id l6K772Za017006; Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:07:02 -0700
>> X Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:07:02 -0700
>> X From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> X Subject: Re: The Greek Cell Phone Tapping Caper
>> X In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Regards,
..jim
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