Bob La Quey wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Joshua Penix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I don't think getting into the administrative front-office network is wise,
but Lan is starting down a good "who" track with his post about the
California public schools needing help due to restricted funding.  Merge
that with Doug's "what" suggestion about an in-school online forum and I
think we're getting somewhere.  Think harder about the "use" picture -
students and/or teachers having a digital communication tool that they
wouldn't otherwise have.  Think instant messaging or voice messaging mixed
with a collaborative learning website.  Maybe a streaming video server for
reviewing class lectures at leisure.  I may be wildly off base, but this are
the general sorts of ideas I'm looking for.  I don't want implementation
specifics... those come later.  Yes, I can see FLOSS projects being central
to all of the above ideas, but that's just a natural function of "build
something digital in the year 2008 with the best bang for the buck."

Well, I would take a look at Moodle and where they stand in terms of this stuff:
http://www.moodle.com

The problem isn't what or how. That isn't really an issue anymore. If I want to do something on a computer, I can find someone to do it.

The issue is *content*.

Content is expensive to produce in terms of time.

For example, I asked about video recording my classes at SDSU. *Nobody* could come up with a way to do that cheaply in terms of human time. The computer end of things was easy; the initial human end was expensive. Someone has to man a camera, edit the video, convert the format, etc. The actual computer end of things is almost irrelevant.

This is crux of the problem in looking to help education, I think. What everybody wants is an extra pair of human hands to do "X, Y or Z" which makes their job easier. Unfortunately, that's actually the last thing we want to do is provide "human hands". We want to provide technology so that we *don't* have to provide human hands indefinitely.

I can't really think of much in general education where computer technology makes things easier (computer science, I argue, is different). What can a computer do in a classroom to reduce the teacher's load? What does a good teacher do that a computer could augment?

If SDCS (or KPLUG) really want to make a difference, probably the thing which would attract the most attention would be folks actually standing up in front of groups and teaching. Most places are *ecstatic* to have someone come in and talk who knows whats going on. However, this is actually the last thing most people in the SDCS clubs really want to do.

-a


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