On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 15:55 +0200, Martin Schaffstall wrote: > On 7/27/06, James Carlson <james.d.carlson at sun.com> wrote: > > Martin Schaffstall writes: > > > On 7/27/06, Casper.Dik at sun.com <Casper.Dik at sun.com> wrote: > > > > >PS: Somehow I have the feeling that Sun doesn't want to see the > > > > >project succeed in replacing ksh88 with ksh93, a feeling which is > > > > >based on the open hostilities from Sun personnel and the permanent > > > > >delays :( > > > > > > > > No, that's not true at all. I and other have wanted ksh93 in Solaris > > > > for a long time, provided it is done properly. > > > > > > Somehow I can't really believe that. Currently I associate "Casper > > > Disk" with the term "ksh93 hater" because each time we have this topic > > > Casper Disk sends another hate mail > > > > Sorry, I don't see it. Where's the "hate?" > > Casper is always there when he can beat onto ksh93. > > > I think this is getting personal, and I don't think that's at all > > necessary. The _only_ issues I've seen relate to technical matters, > > and not at all to "hatred." > > This is not personal. It is just an observation > > > Many of us use ksh93 on Solaris and would very much like to see it > > integrated. We just don't want to see a huge flood of bugs and broken > > applications as the result -- because we value compatibility. Call it > > a fetish if you like, but it's not hatred. > > Sometimes Sun values the holy backwards compatibility over usability. > The PAIN for users and developers caused by this policy far outweighs > the benefits. The majority of people who suffer from /bin/ksh in > Solaris thinks like that. If you don't believe me read > http://anotherhangover.blogspot.com/2006/06/solaris-can-fck-off-kinda.html > http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=15007&limit=no&threshold=-1 > or just search in Google for 'solaris ksh sucks': 15,100 hits
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