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Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:13:15 +0200
From: casper....@sun.com
To: Korn Shell 93 integration/migration project discussion
<ksh93-integration-discuss at opensolaris.org>
Subject: Re: [ksh93-integration-discuss] Re: [osol-discuss] Formal Proposal :
Port OpenSolaris to PowerPC
>
> >On 7/27/06, Casper.Dik at sun.com <Casper.Dik at sun.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I suggest to make /bin/ksh ksh93 from the beginning that you don't
> >> >have to deal with any backwards compatibility fuzz later
> >>
> >> If you want PowerPC Solaris and SPARC/x86 Solaris be that different,
> >> then yes; if you want scripts to be compatible I suggest not.
> >
> >Why not? ksh93 is mostly backwards compatible to Solaris ksh
>
> Because it's stupid to have random differences between "Solaris PPC",
> "Solaris x86" and "Solaris SPARC".[1]
>
> We strongly believe in "One Solaris"
[...]
Wow!
Sounds really really nice, but is it true - I mean in all (key) areas?
Really?
Only take Xorg vs. Xsun for example.
I have been posting about my {and other's} progress {with XFree86 and now} Xorg
@ SunOS5.1[0|1]_sparc since April 11.
Again and again.
Publically (several ML's), semi-publically and privately.
But posting about that topic has mostly been like directly throwing it all to
/dev/null.
Worse: Like actually going or being sent to /dev/null in a certain case (where
I admittedly did make a mistake, but nobody here minded to help me).
I got Xorg working on sparc, on more and more "frame buffers" (or rather
Graphics cards):
PGX, PGX24, PGX32 PGX64, XVR-100, Elite3D (no accell.), Creator3D (no accell.),
maybe also ffb1. We also do have the old (opensource) version of Xsun (included
in the Xorg tree). This adds support to all the really vintage chipsets/boards
like the GX, ZX(leo) and other really obsolete cards.
I don't have a XVR-500 right now, but it might potentially also work (Permedia3
chip). Maybe not out of the box, but with little if no hard work.
Note: All the chips/boards except the afb*/ffb* (Elite*/Creator*) do not even
necessarily depend on the closed /dev/fb driver anymore!
So is that nothing?
That the Xorg "friends" are uninterested in Xorg at SunOS_sparc might be their
little problem.
But why is SUNW so uninterested???
Where is your vision of ^^We strongly believe in "One Solaris"^^ now?
Are you afraid of publically being expected to opensource all your (mostly
eol'ed) gfx drivers?
Or is it that you yourself don't believe in sparc anymore.
I will better stop here.
I wished, you truly meant it 100.00% serious with above vision.
_No_ exceptions: Just as you said it(!).
Martin Bochnig
marTux
p.s.: Is SUNW interested in GRUB2 on sparc? We finally could boot from USB mass
storage then.
