Hi Saad,

I believe the "cross-cutting concerns" thread will be hashed out in the 
leadership summit.  The proposed schedule for that is here 
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VdVt1jpFWBNj20kGLfuqp-wPd12xi6bLoXWMLRfHr54/edit>.
 
 

Regarding support channels, I agree that a SIG is not intended to serve 
that purpose.  There is, however, an important feedback loop that happens 
when you provide a congregation area for users with topical concerns and 
unite them with subject matter experts.  This is beneficial for both the 
project as a whole, and for the SIG that gleans valuable visibility of 
things needing attention. 

All my best,
Jaice


On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 2:12:28 PM UTC-4, Saad Ali wrote:
>
> Maybe this is an opportunity to formalize "workgroups"? With the idea 
> being that "workgroups" can be a focal point for cross-cutting concerns 
> across multiple SIGs. Workgroups can be as big or small as needed, and 
> either ephemeral (and disband as the original concerns are addressed) or 
> remain indefinitely.
>
> Not sure if this is the right forum to carry on the discussion from the 
> community meeting, so please feel free to redirect me.
>
> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:06 AM, <mich...@deis.com <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> +1 on creating SIG Azure especially for representing the ACS-specific 
>> Kubernetes community and their needs.
>>
>> +1 on Aaron's point.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 1:56:59 PM UTC-4, aa...@deis.com wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm +1 on creating a SIG-Azure, and additionally creating a SIG-Cloud or 
>>> similar at some later date. There are certainly cross cutting concerns that 
>>> in an ideal world, no cloud-specific SIG should figure out in isolation. In 
>>> my mind a SIG-Cloud should be a gathering place for all the cloud-specific 
>>> groups to come together, identify these concerns, and solve them together.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 18, 2017 at 10:52:50 AM UTC-7, Brandon Philips wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey Everyone-
>>>>
>>>> +1 for SIG formation from me.
>>>>
>>>> Someone from CoreOS can be involved in this SIG as we rely on the Azure 
>>>> cloud integrations in CoreOS Tectonic. The same folks involved in SIG AWS 
>>>> and pushing AWS features forward can help with cross-cloud SIG comms too.
>>>>
>>>> Aside, as it was mentioned during the call today: I had discussed 
>>>> creating a SIG Cloud at some point in various forums. But, I have been too 
>>>> busy with all of the bootstrap governance stuff to tackle that next. 
>>>> Obviously getting governance in place is higher priority and should help 
>>>> make that decision.
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>>
>>>> Brandon
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 6:14:18 AM UTC-7, Jason Singer DuMars wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to revive the effort to create 
>>>>> <https://github.com/kubernetes/community/blob/master/sig-creation-procedure.md>
>>>>>  
>>>>> SIG-Azure that was referenced in both this 
>>>>> <https://github.com/kubernetes/community/pull/36> PR and this 
>>>>> <https://github.com/kubernetes/community/issues/188> issue.    
>>>>>
>>>>> *Proposed mission statement:*
>>>>>
>>>>> A Special Interest Group for building, deploying, maintaining, 
>>>>> supporting, and using Kubernetes on Azure Container Service.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Secondary statement:*
>>>>>
>>>>> The SIG will be responsible for designing, discussing, and maintaining 
>>>>> the Azure cloud provider and its relevant tests. The SIG will also be 
>>>>> responsible for any roadmap and release requirements for Kubernetes on 
>>>>> Azure.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Rationale and Raison D'ĂȘtre: *
>>>>>
>>>>> Since the time of the discussion linked above, Microsoft has become 
>>>>> strategically-focused on Kubernetes as an indispensable component in the 
>>>>> Azure ecosystem.  This was underscored by the recent acquisition of Deis 
>>>>> and GA rollout of Kubernetes in Azure Container Service.  
>>>>>
>>>>> The purposes of the SIG are specifically:
>>>>>
>>>>> - Provide a consistent and accountable interface to the Kubernetes 
>>>>> project/product management structure for features specific to the Azure 
>>>>> cloud provider, as well as a readout space for efforts undertaken in 
>>>>> other 
>>>>> SIGs 
>>>>>
>>>>> - Help organize the rapidly-growing ACS Kubernetes community for 
>>>>> knowledge-sharing and feedback ~ ideally creating more engagement across 
>>>>> the project as a whole
>>>>>
>>>>> - Establish a clear channel for ACS-specific Kubernetes community 
>>>>> support, so it does not get misdirected into SIG-Windows
>>>>>
>>>>> - Building and curating documentation for Kubernetes on Azure
>>>>> - Provide a point of contact to build and maintain Azure-specific e2e 
>>>>> tests for Kubernetes
>>>>>
>>>>> - Coordinating requirements for Azure integrators like ACS-Engine, 
>>>>> CoreOS Tectonic for Azure
>>>>>
>>>>> - Raise visibility within Microsoft of opportunities to contribute and 
>>>>> give back to Kubernetes
>>>>>
>>>>> *SIG Disambiguation:*
>>>>>
>>>>> To address potential overlap concerns with SIG-Windows, this group is 
>>>>> specific to *workloads running in Azure Container Service*.  The 
>>>>> mission of SIG-Windows is complimentary not preemptory.  Also, if a 
>>>>> SIG-Cloud umbrella comes to fruition in the future, we will re-evaluate 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> need for this separate SIG at that point.  The last thing we need is SIG 
>>>>> sprawl.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Implementation:*
>>>>>
>>>>> For implementation, I will be the initial point of contact and will at 
>>>>> a minimum ensure scheduling, documentation, transparency, and 
>>>>> facilitation 
>>>>> are consistent with Kubernetes community SIG standards. Initial (and 
>>>>> possibly provisional) leadership will be Jason Hansen 
>>>>> <https://github.com/slack> and Cole Mickens 
>>>>> <https://github.com/colemickens>.
>>>>>
>>>>> An initial meeting cadence will be bi-weekly, and after the SIG is 
>>>>> properly set up in Groups, Slack and other communications channels, the 
>>>>> initial and subsequent meeting times will be radiated to the community.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd like to work out concerns ahead of the 5/18 community meeting so 
>>>>> that the SIG may be discussed and ideally approved at that time. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know your questions and concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>> Jaice Singer DuMars
>>>>> co-lead of SIG Cluster Ops
>>>>> ~ Formerly @Deis, Now @Microsoft
>>>>>
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