Hai all.

What I'm hearing is immediate need for Azure work to happen in some
coordinated fashion we're not addressing.  *And* a rethink/coalescence of
cloud providers under a more umbrella group for cross platform consistency
and coordination.

I've also heard that a SIG-Azure group (and I believe SIG-AWS from
Thursday's chat) would support an umbrella SIG-Cloud.  I don't remember if
SIG-Openstack weighed in on that one.

So, my question today is -- Do we believe we can charter and coalesce
SIG-Cloud at the Leadership Summit in 2 weeks or, should we move forward
with SIG-Azure now and continue to work on the goals of SIG-Cloud with a
longer timeline?



On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:56 PM, 'Tim Hockin' via Kubernetes
developer/contributor discussion <kubernetes-...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> I am -1 on this overall.  I think sig-cloud would be better, with
> provider-specific sub-groups.
>
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Tim Hockin <thoc...@google.com> wrote:
> > you can label for area/platform/azure
> >
> > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:43 PM, 'Eric Tune' via Kubernetes
> > developer/contributor discussion <kubernetes-...@googlegroups.com>
> > wrote:
> >> I was just triaging new issues today and I wanted to label one
> sig/azure,
> >> but I can't (yet).
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:42 PM, jack quincy <jazer2...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> +1
> >>>
> >>> On Monday, May 15, 2017 at 6:14:18 AM UTC-7, Jason Singer DuMars wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to revive the effort to create SIG-Azure that was referenced
> in
> >>>> both this PR and this issue.
> >>>>
> >>>> Proposed mission statement:
> >>>>
> >>>> A Special Interest Group for building, deploying, maintaining,
> >>>> supporting, and using Kubernetes on Azure Container Service.
> >>>>
> >>>> Secondary statement:
> >>>>
> >>>> The SIG will be responsible for designing, discussing, and maintaining
> >>>> the Azure cloud provider and its relevant tests. The SIG will also be
> >>>> responsible for any roadmap and release requirements for Kubernetes on
> >>>> Azure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Rationale and Raison D'ĂȘtre:
> >>>>
> >>>> Since the time of the discussion linked above, Microsoft has become
> >>>> strategically-focused on Kubernetes as an indispensable component in
> the
> >>>> Azure ecosystem.  This was underscored by the recent acquisition of
> Deis and
> >>>> GA rollout of Kubernetes in Azure Container Service.
> >>>>
> >>>> The purposes of the SIG are specifically:
> >>>>
> >>>> - Provide a consistent and accountable interface to the Kubernetes
> >>>> project/product management structure for features specific to the
> Azure
> >>>> cloud provider, as well as a readout space for efforts undertaken in
> other
> >>>> SIGs
> >>>>
> >>>> - Help organize the rapidly-growing ACS Kubernetes community for
> >>>> knowledge-sharing and feedback ~ ideally creating more engagement
> across the
> >>>> project as a whole
> >>>>
> >>>> - Establish a clear channel for ACS-specific Kubernetes community
> >>>> support, so it does not get misdirected into SIG-Windows
> >>>>
> >>>> - Building and curating documentation for Kubernetes on Azure
> >>>>
> >>>> - Provide a point of contact to build and maintain Azure-specific e2e
> >>>> tests for Kubernetes
> >>>>
> >>>> - Coordinating requirements for Azure integrators like ACS-Engine,
> CoreOS
> >>>> Tectonic for Azure
> >>>>
> >>>> - Raise visibility within Microsoft of opportunities to contribute and
> >>>> give back to Kubernetes
> >>>>
> >>>> SIG Disambiguation:
> >>>>
> >>>> To address potential overlap concerns with SIG-Windows, this group is
> >>>> specific to workloads running in Azure Container Service.  The
> mission of
> >>>> SIG-Windows is complimentary not preemptory.  Also, if a SIG-Cloud
> umbrella
> >>>> comes to fruition in the future, we will re-evaluate the need for this
> >>>> separate SIG at that point.  The last thing we need is SIG sprawl.
> >>>>
> >>>> Implementation:
> >>>>
> >>>> For implementation, I will be the initial point of contact and will
> at a
> >>>> minimum ensure scheduling, documentation, transparency, and
> facilitation are
> >>>> consistent with Kubernetes community SIG standards. Initial (and
> possibly
> >>>> provisional) leadership will be Jason Hansen and Cole Mickens.
> >>>>
> >>>> An initial meeting cadence will be bi-weekly, and after the SIG is
> >>>> properly set up in Groups, Slack and other communications channels,
> the
> >>>> initial and subsequent meeting times will be radiated to the
> community.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd like to work out concerns ahead of the 5/18 community meeting so
> that
> >>>> the SIG may be discussed and ideally approved at that time.
> >>>>
> >>>> Please let me know your questions and concerns.
> >>>>
> >>>> Kindest regards,
> >>>> Jaice Singer DuMars
> >>>> co-lead of SIG Cluster Ops
> >>>> ~ Formerly @Deis, Now @Microsoft
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