Hello,
the problem already occures before pppd ist started (i don't see any pppd
logging), so it looks like that it has nothing to do with the pppd options
(but i am not sure, because the echo occures during ppp transmission) ...

I have now tried with the rp-l2tp-03, it works fine!
I nearly use the same pppd options ...

I have logged the communication and there is no echo of the send ppp
packets.
Many other people report the same communciation problem with windows
clients, perhaps this echo is really a problem?

It seems to be a timing issue (if windows has a problem with the echo or
not), i my case the linux server is in a virtual machine and therefore very
slow...

l2tp (fails, echo):

      1 0.000000    VMware_c0:00:08       Broadcast             ARP      Who
has 192.168.229.10?  Tell 192.168.229.1
      2 0.040770    VMware_60:5e:65       VMware_c0:00:08       ARP
192.168.229.10 is at 00:50:56:60:5e:65
      3 0.040846    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - SCCRQ    (tunnel id=0, session id=0)
      4 0.062583    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - SCCRP    (tunnel id=4, session id=0)
      5 0.062950    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - SCCCN    (tunnel id=5761, session id=0)
      6 0.063020    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ICRQ     (tunnel id=5761, session id=0)
      7 0.063433    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=5761, session id=0)
      8 0.065831    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=4, session id=0)
      9 0.070162    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ICRP     (tunnel id=4, session id=1)
     10 0.070423    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ICCN     (tunnel id=5761, session id=54410)
     11 0.070489    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=5761, session id=0)
     12 0.072492    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=4, session id=0)
     13 0.111698    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     14 0.155804    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=4, session id=1)
     15 0.163972    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     16 0.165077    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Nak
-> echo     17 0.165685    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP
LCP  PPP LCP Configuration Nak
     18 0.166496    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     19 0.167178    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     20 0.167864    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Nak
-> echo     21 0.168913    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP
LCP  PPP LCP Configuration Nak
     22 0.175045    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
-> echo     23 0.187433    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP
LCP  PPP LCP Configuration Request
     24 0.188903    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Termination Request
-> echo     25 0.189780    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP
LCP  PPP LCP Termination Request
     26 0.190551    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Termination Ack
     27 0.203068    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - CDN      (tunnel id=5761, session id=54410)
     28 0.318795    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=4, session id=1)
     29 0.319068    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - StopCCN  (tunnel id=5761, session id=0)
     30 0.319506    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Termination Ack
     31 0.349571    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=4, session id=0)

rp-l2tp (ok, no echo):

      1 0.000000    VMware_c0:00:08       Broadcast             ARP      Who
has 192.168.229.10?  Tell 192.168.229.1
      2 0.002290    VMware_60:5e:65       VMware_c0:00:08       ARP
192.168.229.10 is at 00:50:56:60:5e:65
      3 0.002343    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - SCCRQ    (tunnel id=0, session id=0)
      4 0.034120    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - SCCRP    (tunnel id=43, session id=0)
      5 0.034547    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - SCCCN    (tunnel id=6609, session id=0)
      6 0.034619    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ICRQ     (tunnel id=6609, session id=0)
      7 0.035086    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=6609, session id=0)
      8 0.042671    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ICRP     (tunnel id=43, session id=1)
      9 0.043004    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ICCN     (tunnel id=6609, session id=28260)
     10 0.043072    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=6609, session id=0)
     11 0.214580    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     12 0.218904    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         L2TP
Control Message - ZLB      (tunnel id=43, session id=0)
     13 0.303403    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         0x006f   PPP
Stampede Bridging (0x006f)
     14 0.305031    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         0x006f   PPP
Stampede Bridging (0x006f)
     15 0.306502    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     16 0.315656    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Ack
     17 1.599513    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     18 1.601648    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Reject
     19 1.602782    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Request
     20 1.604365    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Configuration Ack
     21 1.605763    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Request
     22 1.606795    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Identification
     23 1.608121    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Code Reject
     24 1.609093    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Identification
     25 1.610311    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP LCP  PPP
LCP Code Reject
     26 1.620375    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Configuration Request
     27 1.622019    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Configuration Request
     28 1.622776    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Configuration Reject
     29 1.623930    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Request
     30 1.625159    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Reject
     31 1.626237    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Ack
     32 1.628143    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Configuration Ack
     33 1.629881    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Termination Request
     34 1.631007    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP CCP  PPP
CCP Termination Ack
     35 1.632151    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Request
     36 1.633328    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Nak
     37 1.634826    192.168.229.1         192.168.229.10        PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Request
     38 1.636110    192.168.229.10        192.168.229.1         PPP IPCP PPP
IPCP Configuration Ack
     39 1.703455    192.168.229.1         224.0.0.22            IGMP     V3
Membership Report
     40 1.750953    192.168.229.1         224.0.0.22            IGMP     V3
Membership Report
     41 1.793054    192.168.229.1         224.0.0.22            IGMP     V3
Membership Report

Ulrich

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacco de Leeuw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 3:13 PM
Subject: Re: Packet echo?


> Ulrich Holeschak wrote:
>
> > i try to connect via L2TP a Win xp Pro client with a linux server (ipsec
> > disabled, no authentication). Very often i get the "loopback error"
message
> > on the xp client
>
> I never got this error with XP, but I have not disabled IPSEC. I did
> get the same error with Windows 2000 Professional, however. My logfile
> (http://www.jacco2.dds.nl/networking/win2000-l2tpd-error.log.gz)
> is a bit different from yours, though. The PPP server on my Linux
> server sends one LCP ConfReq and then Windows 2000 disconnects
> immediately. So it might be something different. Have you looked
> at the PPP log?
>
> This is a long shot, but could you try adding "silent" to your
> PPP options? Perhaps it helps...
>
> Jacco
> --
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