I hope, I mean, I am gonna do some visual test and post it here during the
week, because I feel that it goes with the atmosphere. So, I thought selling
some of those spots, might be a nice way to earn money and save some time
doing some texture work, if someone proiveds me with an image they want to
advertise. My main concern is the legality, like, what if they don't pay,
they pay and I never finish the campaign, or someone suing me for copyright
content on the advertiser's image, or valve simply frowning upon the idea of
selling ad spots on  a map. I'll try to do the test image tomorrow, if I am
not overloaded with Uni work.

On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Arthur Lin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Somebody tried to recruit people to do this and he got plenty of good
> feedback on why it is not a good idea. To me, the biggest problem (out of
> many) is that it cheapens the quality of the campaign and you don't earn
> that much for doing so. Valve has been experimenting with ways for
> contributors to get something in return as you can see with TF2. For L4D,
> Cold Stream was a "commissioned" project if that's the correct terminology.
> What's funny is that the guy that tried to recruit people had some of his
> work incorporated into Cold Stream! I think he originally did the scrolling
> water effect in Freezer Burn and brought it over the horse-shoe map.
> Anyway,
> I'm sure the two have kind of arrangement involved.
>
> As for ads outright, I don't remember Valve really pushing them since
> Counter-Strike. That may be a sign that they've learned a valuable lesson
> regarding that approach to at the very least keep it on hold.
>
> In any case, I'm sure you'll get something in return if people like your
> work, maybe worth more than just cash.
>
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Glen Huey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This came up once before with someone on here and received a pretty cold
> > response.  I don't know for certain but I believe the only way to profit
> > from this hobby is to build an impressive enough portfolio of work that a
> > gaming company hires you.
> > On Sep 20, 2011 7:14 PM, "Eugenio Roman" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > Hello, so recently I got an idea to earn some money with the time I am
> > > spending on my L4D2 campaign.
> > >
> > > In my campaign, the survivors get to some subway stations, and I was
> > > thinking of puting some add spots and sell them to, I donno, whoever
> > wants
> > > to purchase that spot. A bit like how Deus Ex has real adds on its
> game,
> > > exept, mine won't be dinamic, it will be a one time add forever.
> > >
> > > The only problem I see, is the legality of doing this. Can I sell spots
> > in
> > > my map? I am not selling the maps, but just adds on the map. The map is
> > free
> > > and people would pay me to get their image on some places of the
> > campaign.
> > I
> > > sent Gabe an email some hours ago, but I doubt he will reply. I also
> > can't
> > > seem to find the Left 4 Dead 2 Authoring tools' EULA so I can fully
> read
> > it.
> > > So, I am hoping someone over at Valve (Chet!) can lend me some advise
> on
> > > this. It would be nice to get something out of all this time I am
> > investing.
> > >
> > > What do you guys think? Should I go for it? Any unforseeable
> > consequences?
> > > Any of you tried this before?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > --
> > > Eugenio "Motanum" Roman
> > >
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://twitter.com/#!/MotanumR
> > > http://steamcommunity.com/id/Motanum
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