Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote: > Distrust? Bots cluster have been created long time before tools labs. > What I understand as a distrust is that wmf secretly started a new > project with only aim which is to overtake the current one - community > maintained, probably because people in wmf don't believe that anything > operated by volunteers can ever work.
I meant by distrust ignoring Marc's expertise on grid. If I wanted some information about Prague, and you were standing next to me, waving a giant Czech flag and wearing a shirt with high visibility "PRAGUE" lettering, and I didn't ask you, you would probably feel a bit uneasy. Regarding Bots vs. Tools, whatever grievances one might have with WMF, the intention of providing Tools as a Toolserver replacement has been shouted from the rooftops since at least the end of August 2011, when Ryan added https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?diff=429625. So if it was to be a secret, WMF was very bad at hiding it :-). I'm pretty sure the Bots project was only created afterwards, as I believe Labs wasn't really in existence then :-). And the *only* aim of Tools is very hopefully not to take over Bots, as Bots doesn't offer Toolserver's replicated databases (ap- parently, Bots offers the possibility to run webservices as well, but one has to read more than the project description to discover this). > However, regarding GS - we discussed it on irc, and some people knew > that we want to install some scheduling for ages. It was no secret at > all. > [...] I just looked at the IRC logs (again), and the only major non-!log non-Tools mention of grid by you (or someone else) on #wikimedia-labs that sprung into my eye was at 2013-03-08 15:15:30. Which discussion do you refer to? Tim _______________________________________________ Labs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l
