On 03/12/2013 04:33 AM, Petr Bena wrote:
probably because people in wmf don't believe that anything
operated by volunteers can ever work
Woah, woah, woah!
Where did you get that? I'm pretty sure absolutely nobody said that at
any time; and that it would sound /really/ silly from the foundation
that stands behind - you know - just the biggest volunteer-operated
project on the web, ever? (If not of human history).
What *I* believe in (and I expect WMF Engineering shares) is that the
labs need at least one sysadmin whose full-time job and /responsibility/
is dedicated to making a rock-solid environment for the development and
deployment of external tools in support of our projects. It's not about
being "the WMF", but about being able to dedicate expertise, resources
and /time/ towards that objective (which being contracted for allows).
I think you are mistakenly conflating /ad-hoc/ system administration -
which is often apropriate in experimental and exploratory development -
with /volunteer/ system administration. Yes, I am working on a design
which will require a more deliberate approach to the architecture and
deployment and where tool maintainers will not generally be allowed to
do system administration. That has nothing to do with my being *staff*,
and everything to do with the set of design requirements I am working
towards. If I was able to do this as a volunteer, I would /still/ do it
the same way, because that is what is needed to reach the objectives.
-- Marc
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