On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote:
> OK, as I have already said on irc: as soon as I see a single volunteer > as sysadmin on tools labs, I will likely become less s(k)eptic. But > until then you can't expect me to take all my bots and jump into your > cluster permanently... I can do some tests there if you want, but I > will not move my bots to some cluster that, to me, appears to be > worse. (Not by design, but philosophy) > > The tools project isn't meant to be only run by staff. The only reason tools was created was because we felt it would likely be better for bots and webtools to be a single project, hence the creation of tools. We are taking a philosophical change of direction in the tools project though. We're not allowing root by default. This was a similar goal we wanted in bots as well. I think we very much want to have volunteer roots, even at this point, but a requirement for that would be that any changes that occur on any instance must be discussed with Marc before they are implemented. He was hired to lead the project, which requires a certain amount of benevolent dictatorship. I'd very much like to not lose the effort that's been build in bots, since it's one of our oldest and best run projects. I'd very much like to see you guys work together to build a no-root-by-default version of the bots project together that's puppetized, automated and easy for end-users. Sound good? - Ryan
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