yes, it sounds - I have absolutely nothing against discussing and documenting changes, that's what I require from others on bots project as well
On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Ryan Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Petr Bena <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> OK, as I have already said on irc: as soon as I see a single volunteer >> as sysadmin on tools labs, I will likely become less s(k)eptic. But >> until then you can't expect me to take all my bots and jump into your >> cluster permanently... I can do some tests there if you want, but I >> will not move my bots to some cluster that, to me, appears to be >> worse. (Not by design, but philosophy) >> > > The tools project isn't meant to be only run by staff. The only reason tools > was created was because we felt it would likely be better for bots and > webtools to be a single project, hence the creation of tools. > > We are taking a philosophical change of direction in the tools project > though. We're not allowing root by default. This was a similar goal we > wanted in bots as well. I think we very much want to have volunteer roots, > even at this point, but a requirement for that would be that any changes > that occur on any instance must be discussed with Marc before they are > implemented. He was hired to lead the project, which requires a certain > amount of benevolent dictatorship. > > I'd very much like to not lose the effort that's been build in bots, since > it's one of our oldest and best run projects. I'd very much like to see you > guys work together to build a no-root-by-default version of the bots project > together that's puppetized, automated and easy for end-users. > > Sound good? > > - Ryan > > _______________________________________________ > Labs-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l > _______________________________________________ Labs-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/labs-l
