On 17 December 2013 23:12, David Crossley <cross...@apache.org> wrote:
> jan i wrote: > > After a couple of hick ups, I hope this mail comes through. > > > > even though its something PMC should discuss on private-labs@ I sent the > > mail to labs@ due to some mail problems, sorry for that. > > Jan, i just want to reply to this part at this stage. > No, it is not something that should be discussed on private@ lists. > Here is one reference, there may be others: > http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#mailing-list-naming-policy > So everything on this list unless it is personnel matters, etc. > I agree with you, but you should see, what at least one project (AOO) put in the private list, so I guess I am just a burned kid. However I do hope something is going on private, since this list is dead silent, and I had hoped at least for somebody to comment on my requst, and not to forget proposal to change the web page. rgds jan I. > > -David > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: jan i <j...@apache.org> > > Date: 16 December 2013 01:10 > > Subject: [request for Vote] change of bylaws > > To: priv...@labs.apache.org > > > > > > Hi. > > > > Not being PMC (not even labs committer) I can only request a vote, > > which I hereby do. > > > > > > The charter [1] and homepage [2] for labs says: > > > > - Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The creation of > > the lab requires a PMC lazy consensus vote > > (at least three +1 and no -1, 72 hours). > > > > However the foundations glossary [3] defines lazy consensus today as: > > > > *Lazy consensus*(Also called 'lazy approval'.) A decision-making policy > > which assumes general consent if no responses are posted within a defined > > period. For example, "I'm going to commit this by lazy consensus if > no-one > > objects within the next three days." Also see Consensus > > Approval< > http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#ConsensusApproval>, > > Majority > > Approval < > http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html#MajorityApproval>, > > and the description of the voting > > process <http://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html>. > > > > > > I propose the bylaws to be changed as follows: > > > > - Every ASF committer can ask for one or more labs. The lab creation > > requires PMC lazy concensus, if no PMC sends a mail with -1 to > > l...@apache.org within the lazy consensus period, the lab request is > > accepted. > > > > Change in the bylaws [2] requires 2/3 vote from the PMC members. > > > > > > Voting positively on this will also solve > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LABS-512 > > > > As mentioned in my other mail, I strongly believe in labs and would > > like to help to "rejuvenate" labs and put it back into the central > > place it belongs. > > > > thanks in advance for your time (and vote) > > > > rgds > > jan I. > > > > > > > > [1] > http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2006/board_minutes_2006_11_15.txt > > > > > > > > > > [2] http://labs.apache.org/bylaws.html > > [3] http://www.apache.org/foundation/glossary.html > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org > >
