On 19 January 2014 17:30, Daniel Gruno <humbed...@apache.org> wrote: > On 01/19/2014 05:23 PM, Santiago Gala wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:00 AM, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> Jukka Zitting seems to have been active on some lists in late 2013 > >> > >> I still am. The reason I didn't participate in this vote was that I > >> asked to resign from the Labs PMC (see private@labs) due to lack of > >> time and sufficient interest. > >> > >> As for this vote and the related debate, here's what I'd do: > > > > +1 to all three proposals. > > > > The VP can take these executive decisions on a consensus basis. They > > can be re-endorsed or rejected later on, when the PMC has been cleaned > > up and the bylaws amended. Paralysis causes greater damage than a > > wrong formal decision, IMO. > > > > I seem to recall the board making a decision that a PMC can't simply > drop a PMC member unless the board agrees with it. Either they need to > resign, or the PMC needs to take on more people to reach the required > quorum for changing the bylaws. I have tried reaching out to the PMC > members I know haven't been active for a while, but so far I haven't > received a reply. > > Since the labs bylaws does not have any special paragraph for this situation (like some other projects), and there does not seem to be specific paragraph in the ASF bylaws, removing a PMC member must be seen as the opposite of adding a member, meaning vote and board aproval.
Adding members to "water out" the inactive members, call for quite a number of new PMCs (considering the amount that did not reply to a personal mail). Its clearly easier to ask the board, to ask all PMCs if they want to continue, and remove those who do not reply. > I am considering doing what sebb suggested (and what jan did do, if > memory serves me right) and copying the correspondence (or attempt at > it) to private@. > you have a good memory. At this point it seems I cannot be of real help, should I be mistaken please tell me. I have a new homepage more or less prepared, together with a couple of proposals to help reactivate labs, I will forward these once we have a working PMC group. rgds jan I. > With regards, > Daniel. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: labs-unsubscr...@labs.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: labs-h...@labs.apache.org > >
