I was not going to comment on this, but after Linda's sad story below, I 
decided to do so.  I am still learning the basics and my two teachers (Janet & 
Jo) have been nothing BUT patient & neither have ever given me the feelings 
Clay and Linda got from their teachers.  I would not be where I am now without 
both Janet & Jo & the others along the way who have stopped to help me out.  
This includes the Bridlington Lace Group.  Wish you all could have these 
wonderful experiences as they make my learning experience fun & educational in 
my travels along the lace path.
Sallie in Wyoming

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On Oct 28, 2011, at 10:51 AM, Linda Walton <linda.wal...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:

> Ah yes, speaking of bad teaching . . .
> 
> Once, long ago, I joined a class to learn Modern Greek.  At the first 
> session, the teacher listened carefully as each student introduced themselves 
> to the group.  Then she sat back, glared around the room, and said:  "Thank 
> you.  Well, now I know which of you are going to fail." Her opinions came 
> across clearly during lessons, too, as part of her heavily authoritarian 
> approach.
> 
> The lady also had her favourites, and made it quite clear who they were, 
> which didn't encourage the rest of us.  She was so unpleasant to me after I 
> got high marks in a class competition, beating her particular pet, that I 
> decided to stop fighting and dropped out.
> 
> It has affected my willingness to join other classes, preferring to teach 
> myself whenever possible.  Despite believing myself to be rational and tough, 
> my feelings are there too and have to be overcome every time.  I'm sure no 
> member of this very well-mannered list would even think of teaching in this 
> way, but it might be worth considering that your students might have been 
> damaged by a previous experience.
> 
> Linda Walton,
> (fluent in Classical and Koine Greek, but still not able to manage 'good 
> morning' in Modern Greek), in High Wycombe, Buckinghamshire, U.K., where it's 
> a cool, still Autumn twilight.
> 
> 
> On 28/10/2011 17:07, Clay Blackwell wrote:
>> Ah yes....
>> 
>> This reminds me of a "teacher" I had many years ago.  I was trying to make 
>> tallies, and asked her how they were done.  She looked at me and said, 
>> "Well, you just DO it."  Needless to say, I had to find a better teacher.
>> 
>> C
>> Clay Blackwell
>> Lynchburg, VA. USA
>> 
>> 
>> Joy Beeson<joybee...@comcast.net>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On 10/26/11 10:59 AM, Bob Ross wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are two ladies in town with way more experience
>>>> then me so I'm may just suggest the weavers contact them.
>>> 
>>> You might be the better teacher, because you remember what's
>>> hard and what you did about it.  We experienced workers tend
>>> to say things like "All you have to do is to frammis the
>>> wilberstan."  [flutters fingers randomly, perfectly-
>>> frammised wilberstan appears] "And then you gorblach . . . "
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Joy Beeson
>>> http://joybeeson.home.comcast.net/
>>> http://roughsewing.home.comcast.net/
>>> http://www.debeeson.net/LakeCam/LakeCam.shtml#content
>>> west of Fort Wayne, Indiana, U.S.A.
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