I agree with the arguments being made in favor of having a different criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria mentioned by Amir.
Best Satdeep On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but their > opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource, stability is not > less important than continuous activity. > > (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time, but > the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in Wikisource, > which may become complete in some languages at some point. Whether it > actually works in the current editions of Wikinews is a separate > discussion.) > > So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content , and > the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it, that's enough > for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource satisfies both criteria: as > far as I can see, it has many more pages than any other language in > wikisource.org, and they aren't being vandalized. > > בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia Tymkiv < > [email protected]>: > >> True, that community activities are important, and I think that it is >> important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very different >> project, where the value would be even in its passive existence. When there >> are text available in that language -- and there are already a few of them >> -- the chances of a community being drawn to it are bigger. But in any case >> value for readers is really big. Maybe the rules should be different for >> Wikisource because of its different nature (no original text, basically)? >> >> Best regards, >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees >> >> *NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal >> working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during >> weekend. You should not feel obligated to answer it during your days off. >> Thank you in advance!* >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is very >>> important, and this has been a consistent criterion. >>> Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account the >>> nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no argument has >>> been made that it should be taken into account. >>> >>> If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all of >>> them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time from a small >>> number of users. Or even if there are no such users. >>> Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, which >>> also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But no one is >>> running this project right now. I don't think it's appropriate for this >>> wikiversity incubating project to have an independent domain. And the >>> Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in a situation that is not very >>> different when looking at recent activities. >>> >>> I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or >>> consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing explanation >>> for the approval of the project despite questioning the sustainability of >>> the community. Otherwise, we face demands from numerous projects to be >>> individual and to recognize exceptions. >>> >>> Sotiale >>> >>> 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious <[email protected]>님이 작성: >>> >>>> I totally agree as well. >>>> Let's move this forward. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? >>>>> It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's >>>>> strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual site. >>>>> And >>>>> there are waves of activity, too. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>>>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>>>> “We're living in pieces, >>>>> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת MF-Warburg < >>>>> [email protected]>: >>>>> >>>>>> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. Approving >>>>>> makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do the "upkeep" on a >>>>>> separate wiki, when the content is perfectly accessible (without >>>>>> prefixes) >>>>>> on the multilingual Wikisource. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this >>>>>> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? >>>>>> >>>>>> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now >>>>>> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems like >>>>>> there was no response (< >>>>>> https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_interested_in_trying_to_get_a_separate_subdomain_for_Georgian_Wikisource%3F >>>>>> >). >>>>>> >>>>>> Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 24. >>>>>> März 2022, 20:00: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, >>>>>>> they were recategorized. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't think of a reason to keep it there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >>>>>>> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>>>>>> “We're living in pieces, >>>>>>> I want to live in peace.” – T. 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