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2024년 4월 1일 (월) 오전 9:54, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]>님이 작성:

> Oh yes, definitely!
>
> Regards
> Satdeep Gill
>
> On 01-Apr-2024, at 4:34 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hello! Many months have passed since August 2023, and the activity now is
> much higher:
>
> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki#distribution_2023-09
>
> Can we approve the Georgian Wikisource now?
>
> --
> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי
> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
> ‪“We're living in pieces,
> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>
>
> ‫בתאריך יום ה׳, 10 באוג׳ 2023 ב-0:17 מאת ‪Jan Wohlgemujth‬‏ <‪
> [email protected]‬‏>:‬
>
>> I agree with this, too.
>> Greetings from Depok,
>> Jan
>>
>> Am 2023-08-04 23:19, schrieb Satdeep Gill:
>> > I agree with the arguments being made in favor of having a different
>> > criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for
>> > Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should
>> > be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria
>> > mentioned by Amir.
>> >
>> > Best
>> >
>> > Satdeep
>> >
>> > On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but
>> >> their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource,
>> >> stability is not less important than continuous activity.
>> >>
>> >> (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time,
>> >> but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in
>> >> Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some
>> >> point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews
>> >> is a separate discussion.)
>> >>
>> >> So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content
>> >> , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it,
>> >> that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource
>> >> satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages
>> >> than any other language in wikisource.org [1], and they aren't being
>> >> vandalized.
>> >>
>> >> בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia
>> >> Tymkiv ‏<[email protected]>:
>> >>
>> >> True, that community activities are important, and I think that it
>> >> is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very
>> >> different project, where the value would be even in its passive
>> >> existence. When there are text available in that language -- and
>> >> there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being
>> >> drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really
>> >> big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of
>> >> its different nature (no original text, basically)?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
>> >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees
>> >>
>> >> _NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal
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>> >> off. Thank you in advance!_
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is
>> >> very important, and this has been a consistent criterion.
>> >> Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account
>> >> the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no
>> >> argument has been made that it should be taken into account.
>> >>
>> >> If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all
>> >> of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time
>> >> from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users.
>> >> Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages,
>> >> which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But
>> >> no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's
>> >> appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an
>> >> independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in
>> >> a situation that is not very different when looking at recent
>> >> activities.
>> >>
>> >> I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or
>> >> consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing
>> >> explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the
>> >> sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from
>> >> numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions.
>> >>
>> >> Sotiale
>> >>
>> >> 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious
>> >> <[email protected]>님이 작성:
>> >>
>> >> I totally agree as well.
>> >> Let's move this forward.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource?
>> >> It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's
>> >> strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual
>> >> site. And there are waves of activity, too.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע
>> >> אַהֲרוֹנִי
>> >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>> >> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>> >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
>> >>
>> >> ‫בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת
>> >> ‪MF-Warburg‬‏ <‪[email protected]‬‏>:‬
>> >>
>> >> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently.
>> >> Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do
>> >> the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly
>> >> accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource.
>> >>
>> >> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this
>> >> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted?
>> >>
>> >> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now
>> >> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems
>> >> like there was no response
>> >>
>> > (<
>> https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_interested_in_trying_to_get_a_separate_subdomain_for_Georgian_Wikisource%3F
>> >).
>> >>
>> >> Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 24.
>> >> März 2022, 20:00:
>> >>
>> >> Hi!
>> >>
>> >> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :)
>> >>
>> >> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently,
>> >> they were recategorized.
>> >>
>> >
>> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki
>> >>
>> >> I can't think of a reason to keep it there.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע
>> >> אַהֲרוֹנִי
>> >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com
>> >> ‪“We're living in pieces,
>> >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬
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