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-- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore בתאריך יום ב׳, 1 באפר׳ 2024 ב-2:11 מאת Sotiale Wiki < [email protected]>: > I agree to the approval. > > Sotiale > > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > 바이러스가 > 없습니다.www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> > <#m_-705017641947775898_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > 2024년 4월 1일 (월) 오전 9:54, Satdeep Gill <[email protected]>님이 작성: > >> Oh yes, definitely! >> >> Regards >> Satdeep Gill >> >> On 01-Apr-2024, at 4:34 AM, Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> Hello! Many months have passed since August 2023, and the activity now is >> much higher: >> >> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki#distribution_2023-09 >> >> Can we approve the Georgian Wikisource now? >> >> -- >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >> “We're living in pieces, >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >> >> >> בתאריך יום ה׳, 10 באוג׳ 2023 ב-0:17 מאת Jan Wohlgemujth < >> [email protected]>: >> >>> I agree with this, too. >>> Greetings from Depok, >>> Jan >>> >>> Am 2023-08-04 23:19, schrieb Satdeep Gill: >>> > I agree with the arguments being made in favor of having a different >>> > criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for >>> > Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should >>> > be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria >>> > mentioned by Amir. >>> > >>> > Best >>> > >>> > Satdeep >>> > >>> > On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni >>> > <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> >> I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but >>> >> their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource, >>> >> stability is not less important than continuous activity. >>> >> >>> >> (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time, >>> >> but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in >>> >> Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some >>> >> point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews >>> >> is a separate discussion.) >>> >> >>> >> So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content >>> >> , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it, >>> >> that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource >>> >> satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages >>> >> than any other language in wikisource.org [1], and they aren't being >>> >> vandalized. >>> >> >>> >> בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia >>> >> Tymkiv <[email protected]>: >>> >> >>> >> True, that community activities are important, and I think that it >>> >> is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very >>> >> different project, where the value would be even in its passive >>> >> existence. When there are text available in that language -- and >>> >> there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being >>> >> drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really >>> >> big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of >>> >> its different nature (no original text, basically)? >>> >> >>> >> Best regards, >>> >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv >>> >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees >>> >> >>> >> _NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal >>> >> working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during >>> >> weekend. You should not feel obligated to answer it during your days >>> >> off. Thank you in advance!_ >>> >> >>> >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is >>> >> very important, and this has been a consistent criterion. >>> >> Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account >>> >> the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no >>> >> argument has been made that it should be taken into account. >>> >> >>> >> If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all >>> >> of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time >>> >> from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users. >>> >> Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, >>> >> which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But >>> >> no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's >>> >> appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an >>> >> independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in >>> >> a situation that is not very different when looking at recent >>> >> activities. >>> >> >>> >> I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or >>> >> consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing >>> >> explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the >>> >> sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from >>> >> numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions. >>> >> >>> >> Sotiale >>> >> >>> >> 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious >>> >> <[email protected]>님이 작성: >>> >> >>> >> I totally agree as well. >>> >> Let's move this forward. >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni >>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? >>> >> It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's >>> >> strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual >>> >> site. And there are waves of activity, too. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע >>> >> אַהֲרוֹנִי >>> >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>> >> “We're living in pieces, >>> >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore >>> >> >>> >> בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת >>> >> MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: >>> >> >>> >> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. >>> >> Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do >>> >> the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly >>> >> accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource. >>> >> >>> >> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this >>> >> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? >>> >> >>> >> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now >>> >> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems >>> >> like there was no response >>> >> >>> > (< >>> https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_interested_in_trying_to_get_a_separate_subdomain_for_Georgian_Wikisource%3F >>> >). >>> >> >>> >> Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 24. >>> >> März 2022, 20:00: >>> >> >>> >> Hi! >>> >> >>> >> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) >>> >> >>> >> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, >>> >> they were recategorized. >>> >> >>> > >>> https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki >>> >> >>> >> I can't think of a reason to keep it there. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע >>> >> אַהֲרוֹנִי >>> >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com >>> >> “We're living in pieces, >>> >> I want to live in peace.” – T. 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