Hello! Many months have passed since August 2023, and the activity now is much higher: https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki#distribution_2023-09
Can we approve the Georgian Wikisource now? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore בתאריך יום ה׳, 10 באוג׳ 2023 ב-0:17 מאת Jan Wohlgemujth < [email protected]>: > I agree with this, too. > Greetings from Depok, > Jan > > Am 2023-08-04 23:19, schrieb Satdeep Gill: > > I agree with the arguments being made in favor of having a different > > criteria for Wikisource and we should create a separate Wikisource for > > Georgian as per what Amir says. I think the Georgian community should > > be able to take ownership of the project and satisfy the criteria > > mentioned by Amir. > > > > Best > > > > Satdeep > > > > On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 16:55, Amir E. Aharoni > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I agree with Nicolas and Nataliia. They aren't Langcom members, but > >> their opinion is sensible and well-explained. In Wikisource, > >> stability is not less important than continuous activity. > >> > >> (In Wikinews, each article is supposed to freeze after a short time, > >> but the activity is supposed to be otherwise continuous, unlike in > >> Wikisource, which may become complete in some languages at some > >> point. Whether it actually works in the current editions of Wikinews > >> is a separate discussion.) > >> > >> So I'd say that for practical purposes, if there is a lot of content > >> , and the community is good enough at preventing vandalism to it, > >> that's enough for Wikisource. The current Georgian Wikisource > >> satisfies both criteria: as far as I can see, it has many more pages > >> than any other language in wikisource.org [1], and they aren't being > >> vandalized. > >> > >> בתאריך יום ו׳, 4 באוג׳ 2023, 14:12, מאת Nataliia > >> Tymkiv <[email protected]>: > >> > >> True, that community activities are important, and I think that it > >> is important to approve all other projects. But Wikisource is a very > >> different project, where the value would be even in its passive > >> existence. When there are text available in that language -- and > >> there are already a few of them -- the chances of a community being > >> drawn to it are bigger. But in any case value for readers is really > >> big. Maybe the rules should be different for Wikisource because of > >> its different nature (no original text, basically)? > >> > >> Best regards, > >> antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv > >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees > >> > >> _NOTICE: You may have received this message outside of your normal > >> working hours/days, as I usually can work more as a volunteer during > >> weekend. You should not feel obligated to answer it during your days > >> off. Thank you in advance!_ > >> > >> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 10:19 AM Sotiale Wiki > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> I am negative for approval. Whether a community is sustainable is > >> very important, and this has been a consistent criterion. > >> Of course, it may be a separate issue that this takes into account > >> the nature of the Wikisource project, but at least for now, no > >> argument has been made that it should be taken into account. > >> > >> If it's just because there are a lot of pages, we should approve all > >> of them if they've been contributing continuously for a long time > >> from a small number of users. Or even if there are no such users. > >> Betawikiversity has a Vietnamese language project with 3211 pages, > >> which also needs to be approved according to the same criteria. But > >> no one is running this project right now. I don't think it's > >> appropriate for this wikiversity incubating project to have an > >> independent domain. And the Georgian Wikisource also seems to be in > >> a situation that is not very different when looking at recent > >> activities. > >> > >> I haven't found a good reason to change these acceptance criteria or > >> consistency. If this is approved, there must be a convincing > >> explanation for the approval of the project despite questioning the > >> sustainability of the community. Otherwise, we face demands from > >> numerous projects to be individual and to recognize exceptions. > >> > >> Sotiale > >> > >> 2023년 8월 4일 (금) 오후 3:38, Tochi Precious > >> <[email protected]>님이 작성: > >> > >> I totally agree as well. > >> Let's move this forward. > >> > >> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 6:36 AM Amir E. Aharoni > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Can we go back to this, please, and approve the Georgian Wikisource? > >> It's huge, probably the largest in the multilingual Wikisource. It's > >> strange to keep a language with so many pages on the multilingual > >> site. And there are waves of activity, too. > >> > >> -- > >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע > >> אַהֲרוֹנִי > >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com > >> “We're living in pieces, > >> I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore > >> > >> בתאריך שבת, 26 במרץ 2022 ב-6:42 מאת > >> MF-Warburg <[email protected]>: > >> > >> No, it doesn't fulfill the activity requirements currently. > >> Approving makes no sense if there is no community who wants to do > >> the "upkeep" on a separate wiki, when the content is perfectly > >> accessible (without prefixes) on the multilingual Wikisource. > >> > >> I would be interested to hear from the users who contributed this > >> year and what they think, though. Have they already been contacted? > >> > >> I only see that the user who made the most contributions (but is now > >> inactive) has been contacted some years ago by Steven, but it seems > >> like there was no response > >> > > (< > https://wikisource.org/wiki/User_talk:Giakosh#Question%3A_Are_you_interested_in_trying_to_get_a_separate_subdomain_for_Georgian_Wikisource%3F > >). > >> > >> Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]> schrieb am Do., 24. > >> März 2022, 20:00: > >> > >> Hi! > >> > >> Can we perhaps approve Georgian Wikisource already? :) > >> > >> It has LOTS of pages in the Multilingual Wikisource, and recently, > >> they were recategorized. > >> > > > https://meta.toolforge.org/catanalysis/?title=Georgian&cat=1&wiki=sourceswiki > >> > >> I can't think of a reason to keep it there. > >> > >> -- > >> Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע > >> אַהֲרוֹנִי > >> http://aharoni.wordpress.com > >> “We're living in pieces, > >> I want to live in peace.” – T. 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