NB: there has also been a discussion at < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Moroccan_Amazigh#Clerking_note>. I believe there are several requests open for related languages. It would be good to have some clarity to avoid the community being split into multiple incubator test-wikis.
Am Fr., 18. Aug. 2023 um 14:38 Uhr schrieb Sotiale Wiki < sotiale...@gmail.com>: > Thank you for your kind explanation. > > If this can be understood as the relationship between Standard Arabic (ISO > 639:arb) and Arabic (ISO 639:ara), then zgh is not a distinct language > because it is just a standard representation of Berber languages. This is > true even in light of the current LPP, which excludes different written > forms of any language. > > Therefore, it seems that eligibility for this language cannot be > recognized. > > Sotiale > > 2023년 8월 16일 (수) 오후 10:48, Anass Sedrati <sedra...@gmail.com>님이 작성: > >> Hello, >> >> I am very familiar with this case as I come myself from Morocco and speak >> Berber. The standard Tamazight ( >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Moroccan_Amazigh) is not a spoken >> language, but only a written one. It was created by the official Academy of >> Berber languages in Morocco ( >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Institute_of_Amazigh_Culture) in an >> attempt to standardize the Berber languages, as there are many of them >> spoken in Morocco (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berber_languages). >> >> So to answer you, standard Tamazight is exactly like modern standard >> Arabic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Standard_Arabic). It is a >> standardized language with rules, but not a spoken one (nobody speaks >> standard Arabic as a mother tongue, every Arab country has its own dialect). >> >> This is to explain that even if it not native, Zgh can be treated as >> modern standard Arabic in terms of linguistics. I hope that this gives a >> bit of context, but I am happy to expand on any aspect if you have >> additional questions! >> >> Best regards, >> >> Anass >> >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2023 at 3:00 PM Sotiale Wiki <sotiale...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> I'm not familiar with the Moroccan languages, so I'd love to hear from >>> other colleagues. >>> >>> I'm considering this language project as a potential candidate for >>> approval, but I'm wondering if this is a standardization of other >>> languages, or a distinct language from others? >>> >>> Since this site[1] states that there are no native speakers, I wondered >>> if this was just standardization of other languages(the case that native >>> speakers have a standardized language while using their own languages). >>> >>> [1] https://www.ethnologue.com/language/zgh/ >>> >>> Sotiale >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>> 바이러스가 >>> 없습니다.www.avast.com >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>> <#m_-52777032840040729_m_-1496450384923849562_m_5794971244151197459_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >>> To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> ----------------------------------------------------- >> *Anass SEDRATI* >> *(+46) 70 508 51 07* >> _______________________________________________ >> Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >> > _______________________________________________ > Langcom mailing list -- langcom@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe send an email to langcom-le...@lists.wikimedia.org >
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