On Friday 08 February 2002 08:39, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> Um...you won't find any standard motherboards that support the usage
> of pin 30 for write-protect, and even if you could, it would probably
> be controlled by software, not a switch, which kind of defeats the
> whole purpose.  That's the entire reason the WP jumper is on the
> device in the first place...you can use the pin 30 interface if
> you're designing a custom board...folks with standard hardware can
> just use the jumper (or optionally wire the jumper to a manual
> switch).

OK, this is where I might be confused myself, and confusing others such
as Matt.  Let me explain it as I understand it, and everyone is welcome
to thrash me into submission if wrong.

As noted in the email and to a far lesser degree on the White
paper, pin #30 _can_ be used with a special MB to control the WP, in
particular with _partial_ software_named files/dirs to WP. The WP used
with the pins #1-2 does not require the special MB or ATA instructions,
simply a jumper or a jumper with switch, but you can't do partials.


Now comes in my somewhat OT comments/thoughts of yesterday. Being 
that this jumper configuration does not require a special MB or ATA
instructions beyond what is presently used, only a jumper that bypasses
the disk itself (to ground) ... Is there any reason that this could not
be implemented on any or all existing ATA run devices (CF, FlashDisk,
IDE, etc....), the jumper is bypassing the drive itself as far as the 
instructions on wire #1 is concerned ???? 

The reason I bring this up at all is quite simple, I believe that the
general population has old hardware that could be used for LEAF
similar to mine.... roughly 30 old 486-P1 boxes that support IDE only
(no SCSI support built in). The cost of a SCSI controller board is too
expensive, or won't fit in the desired case restraints desired, so 
though it's a excellent option, it's not a desired option. I have flash
and CF cards at present that I would like to use WP if possible 
through existing MB's ... a manual switch or even a $10-20 module
would be more cost efficient and desired than simply trashing what I
already have, hardware wise, to get WP, if possible. 

In other words, how many folks have said: "Can I run LEAF on a 
harddrive (IDE)". We say, "you can, but it is a security risk compared
to a floppy". What would it mean to be able to say: "You can use a hd,
but if you want it as secure as the floppy, a $10-20 add-in IDE module
is available here (link)." I think a lot of people would find this
useful, IMHO, or maybe I'm thinking too hard and flogging a dead dog!

-- 

~Lynn Avants
aka Guitarlynn

guitarlynn at users.sourceforge.net
http://leaf.sourceforge.net

If linux isn't the answer, you've probably got the wrong question!

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