On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:59 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:

> In message <[email protected]>, Rob Seaman writes:
>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 1:07 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
> 
>> Is there really a requirement to render the concept of "universal time" 
>> meaningless?  Or is UTC merely collateral damage from an intellectually lazy 
>> campaign to "suppress TAI"?
> 
> There is a desire to see computers work reliably together.

These are yes/no questions.  Your non-response may be taken as equivalent to 
"no" and "I don't know".

It is likely that everybody on this list thinks "computers should work 
reliably".  That this is our shared desire does not mean that this is what is 
principally motivating the ITU.

Time-keeping is broader than computing.  Computers "working together" is 
broader than your (substantial) networking experience.  "Reliably" is a very 
non-linear concept (see http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/risks).  Physical reality has 
a way of inserting its own functional requirements.

The reality is that interval time and Earth Orientation time are two different 
things.  My assertion is that civil timekeeping is a type of the latter, since 
day means "synodic day".  The ITU asserts (basically) that "we can cheat for 
the next few hundred years".  This position does not contradict my assertion.  
Proper engineering doesn't seek to bury the underlying issues.

With a wave of its goose quill pen, the ITU can create a new timescale and new 
dissemination infrastructure addressing whatever the underlying issues are with 
TAI.  It need only call it something other than UTC.  Meanwhile, they can just 
stop dealing with UTC.  If need be they can arrange to transfer UTC to some 
other standards organization, but more likely they can just ignore UTC and 
start disseminating the new leap-less time scale.

Call it "TI" for "Temps ITU".

The ITU's non-response since 2003 to this position from the Torino meeting may 
be taken as equivalent to "No, there is no requirement to render the concept of 
universal time meaningless".  If there were such a requirement they certainly 
could have explained the reasoning at any point since 2003.

Rob

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