On 1/4/16 11:47 PM, John Wiegley wrote:
>>>>>> Douglas Philips <[email protected]> writes:
> 
>> I read through the manual (2.6.3, but the v3 manual is the same)... There is
>> an example of using virtual accounts and automatic transactions to move
>> money into a tithing liability account. Then real transactions are used to
>> pay out of that virtual account? (section 5.22.9 in the v3 documentation
>> pdf) That's where I get confused. If a report is run with --real then won't
>> the balances be wrogn?
> 
> --real would just show a positive balance for that liability account, since
> the goal without --real is to bring it to zero. No bug deal, the --real report
> just looks like I've been spending money to a Liability for no reason.

Ah, OK... (Still wrapping my head around that)


>> Then I want to say that there is just one actual payment from the checking
>> to the liability that "absorbs" the budget account amount (or some part of
>> it), all at once.
> 
> I'd have to see an example of this to completely clear on what you mean...

Ok, so let's say that I have a bunch of "small" transactions.
Meals, petrol purchases, etc.
All these move assests (USD) from my Liabilities:Credit Card:CardX account
to various expense accounts.  So I can see what I owe to the CardX company based
on that. And for small expenses I can directly subtract that from my checking 
account balance
to see what I'd have left after paying them off.

But.

For larger expenses (car repairs, house repairs), I want to pay them off slower,
so let's say for the small expenses I add the full amount to the budget account,
but for larger expenses I might only add, say, $100 to the budget account.
Now the statement comes. I can see from my budget account how much I intend to 
pay,
and thus I know in advance how much of a hit my checking account will take.
Which keeps me from spending that money on something else by accident.

Ok, so the statement comes and I cut a check.
This is recorded as a transaction between my checking account and my 
Liabilities:Credit Card:CardX
account. This will also be a transaction that shows up on both accounts and can 
be reconciled.
The budget account transactions have nothing against which they can be 
reconciled.
However, since I have made a payment to the Liabilities account, I also want to 
deduct
that from the Budget account so that I know I have relieved some of that 
obligation and can have
an accurate view of the amount I still holding in reserve.

So maybe a better name would be Reserve:CardX and not Budget:CardX. I'm not 
sure if that
makes any difference, but at least I'm clearer on what my intentions are.

To put it another way, the budget (or reserve) transaction is a check that I 
write mentally
to "prepay" the credit card obligation, but it's not a real transaction that 
can be reconciled
so I can't actually record it as a transaction against checking without really 
getting confused
when the checking account statement arrives.

-=Doug (needs more coffee this early)

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