I agree that a free is not really a good idea. He is an asset, you can't give them away to competitors. Emotion says to tell him to get stuffed, but if we can turn this asset into another asset then I would do that. I don't think there's much chance of getting any real money for him though. I am sure this has been discussed but what prompted his refusal to play? Is he tapped up?
> From: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:41:32 +0000 > To: [email protected] > CC: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Miracles of miracles: > > I'm with Dr Mike on this one - if we were looking to sell him he'd want a > payday for moving and no doubt a signing on fee at his new club. If he wants > out of his contract he puts in a transfer request (thereby losing any money > from Leeds) and tries to find a club that he wants to join. The idea of > letting him walk on a free should not be entertained. > If he goes on loan then it should be to a club outside our division - my vote > would be for him spending the rest of the season at Arbroath :-) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 23 Nov 2011, at 14:13, "Dr. Michael Benjamin. " <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bullshit. They are a pampered bunch. Contracts are mutually binding. > > Remember when we wanted them to take a pay cut temporarily to save the > > club. > > The Stoat is spot on. > > Hammer the guy and make an example of him. You wanna leave ask to be > > released. Not this way. > > > > Sent from my iPhone. > > D"r Michael Benjamin. > > Community Psychiatrist. > > > > On 23 Nov 2011, at 15:12, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> You want to harm someone for wanting to change clubs? You need to > >> understand that being a football player is a JOB. nothing else, > >> nothing more. Anybody is entitled to move jobs in a free society > >> withing the limits of the law/contract. > >> > >> Harassment will only lead to unwanted noise and deter others from > >> signing in the future. > >> > >> Are you for real doc? > >> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Dr. Michael Benjamin. > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> You have to impose a framework of tolerated accepted behavior. It may > >>> cost on the short term but will be profitable on the long. > >>> A contract is mutually binding. > >>> I'd do everything to harm OBrian so that he in no way benefits and in > >>> every way suffers. > >>> One way or another this is a landmark > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone. > >>> D"r Michael Benjamin. > >>> Community Psychiatrist. > >>> > >>> On 23 Nov 2011, at 12:42, DAVID NATTAN <[email protected]> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> He / the club might be right on this occasion but what if Snoddy or > >>>> Howson or Clayton or someone else with a sell on value to us did the > >>>> same. If Delph had said he did not want to play for us and we just > >>>> terminated his contract in this way we (or at least Bates) would be £6m > >>>> down.O'Brien also gets what he wants - a transfer to West Ham. > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>> --- On Wed, 23/11/11, Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> From: Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> > >>>> Subject: [LU] Miracles of miracles: > >>>> To: "LEEDSLIST" <[email protected]> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, 8:08 > >>>> > >>>> I agree with the Stoat entirely > >>>> Whats more I'd sue O'Brian's arse off him. Not to mention a complaint > >>>> about > >>>> WHU and point deductions in the bargain. > >>>> > >>>> The words of the Stoat: > >>>> > >>>> O`Brien spoke to Leeds boss Simon Grayson last week and stated that he > >>>> did > >>>> not intend to ever play for Leeds again. > >>>> > >>>> Grayson speaking at the weekend confirmed that he would never play for > >>>> Leeds again and now Bates says as far as he is concerned he has resigned > >>>> from the club. > >>>> > >>>> Speaking in the Yorkshire Post > >>>> <http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/only_reason_we_employ_o_brien_is_to_play_football_he_s_resigned_as_far_as_i_m_concerned_bates_1_3990672>, > >>>> Bates said, "If you told the Yorkshire Post that you no longer wanted to > >>>> write stories for them then I am sure your boss would take that as you > >>>> having resigned from your employment at the Yorkshire Post. This is no > >>>> different. > >>>> > >>>> "The only reason Leeds United employ Andy O`Brien is to play football for > >>>> us. Now, he won`t do that then clearly he no longer wants to work for > >>>> Leeds > >>>> United. > >>>> > >>>> "To my mind, that means he has resigned his position. As far as I > >>>> personally am concerned, Andy O`Brien has left the club and we have moved > >>>> on. > >>>> > >>>> "We are looking forward without Andy O`Brien and the challenge for the > >>>> other players is to come in and stake their claim. What happens in the > >>>> future is what concerns me and not a player who doesn`t want to play for > >>>> Leeds United." > >>>> > >>>> It is expected that O`Brien will leave the club this week, either on loan > >>>> or by the club terminating his contract allowing him to move on. > >>>> > >>>> Read more: > >>>> http://www.leeds.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=263301#ixzz1eVufmmwH > >>>> > >>>> Dr Michael Benjamin, > >>>> Community Psychiatrist > >>>> ------------------------------- > >>>> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > >>>> http://www.myRay.com > >>>> ------------------------------ > >>>> Mental Health: > >>>> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > >>>> -------------------------------- > >>>> Auditing || Quality Control > >>>> http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > >>>> -------------------------------- > >>>> Blog: > >>>> http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > >>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Leedslist mailing list > >>>> Info and options: > >>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>>> > >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >>> > >>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > >>> > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
