Eric, there are some differences between a professional footballers contract and that of an ordinary employee, the major one being that a footballers contract has no notice period- if I wished to change jobs all I have to do is tell my employer that I'll be leaving in a months time, football contracts tend to be more binding and can only be cancelled by mutual agreement - this is what the transfer fee is for. There is nothing to stop him asking for a transfer or leaving at the end of his contract with Leeds however asking to be released and withdrawing his labour until then is a clear breach, if you hand in your notice your employer is still fully entitled to expect you to work until your end date - assuming you are still being paid. In this case Leeds are in the right and should hold him to the conditions and terms he signed up to - the PFA would be adamant that Leeds upheld their side.
Sent from my iPhone On 23 Nov 2011, at 15:27, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote: > "Bullshit. They are a pampered bunch. Contracts are mutually binding. > Remember when we wanted them to take a pay cut temporarily to save the > club" > > So what if you think they are pampered? its irrelevant to the issue. > If you re jealous about being pampered go to a spa mate. or go to > Eilat and check out the dolphins, saw them on telly the other day, > nice! > > A contract is does not strip you of your statutory rights, or whatever > that is called. A lot of players leave clubs before their contracts > expire, its not exclusive to LUFC. > > If he wants to sod off then get rid of him and good luck to him! > trying to "harm" someone who wants to leave is childish at best and > certainly not good business sense. > > On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:13 PM, Dr. Michael Benjamin. > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Bullshit. They are a pampered bunch. Contracts are mutually binding. >> Remember when we wanted them to take a pay cut temporarily to save the club. >> The Stoat is spot on. >> Hammer the guy and make an example of him. You wanna leave ask to be >> released. Not this way. >> >> Sent from my iPhone. >> D"r Michael Benjamin. >> Community Psychiatrist. >> >> On 23 Nov 2011, at 15:12, Eric B <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> You want to harm someone for wanting to change clubs? You need to >>> understand that being a football player is a JOB. nothing else, >>> nothing more. Anybody is entitled to move jobs in a free society >>> withing the limits of the law/contract. >>> >>> Harassment will only lead to unwanted noise and deter others from >>> signing in the future. >>> >>> Are you for real doc? >>> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Dr. Michael Benjamin. >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> You have to impose a framework of tolerated accepted behavior. It may cost >>>> on the short term but will be profitable on the long. >>>> A contract is mutually binding. >>>> I'd do everything to harm OBrian so that he in no way benefits and in >>>> every way suffers. >>>> One way or another this is a landmark >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone. >>>> D"r Michael Benjamin. >>>> Community Psychiatrist. >>>> >>>> On 23 Nov 2011, at 12:42, DAVID NATTAN <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> He / the club might be right on this occasion but what if Snoddy or >>>>> Howson or Clayton or someone else with a sell on value to us did the >>>>> same. If Delph had said he did not want to play for us and we just >>>>> terminated his contract in this way we (or at least Bates) would be £6m >>>>> down.O'Brien also gets what he wants - a transfer to West Ham. >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> --- On Wed, 23/11/11, Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Dr Michael Benjamin <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [LU] Miracles of miracles: >>>>> To: "LEEDSLIST" <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Wednesday, 23 November, 2011, 8:08 >>>>> >>>>> I agree with the Stoat entirely >>>>> Whats more I'd sue O'Brian's arse off him. Not to mention a complaint >>>>> about >>>>> WHU and point deductions in the bargain. >>>>> >>>>> The words of the Stoat: >>>>> >>>>> O`Brien spoke to Leeds boss Simon Grayson last week and stated that he did >>>>> not intend to ever play for Leeds again. >>>>> >>>>> Grayson speaking at the weekend confirmed that he would never play for >>>>> Leeds again and now Bates says as far as he is concerned he has resigned >>>>> from the club. >>>>> >>>>> Speaking in the Yorkshire Post >>>>> <http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/football/leeds-united/only_reason_we_employ_o_brien_is_to_play_football_he_s_resigned_as_far_as_i_m_concerned_bates_1_3990672>, >>>>> Bates said, "If you told the Yorkshire Post that you no longer wanted to >>>>> write stories for them then I am sure your boss would take that as you >>>>> having resigned from your employment at the Yorkshire Post. This is no >>>>> different. >>>>> >>>>> "The only reason Leeds United employ Andy O`Brien is to play football for >>>>> us. Now, he won`t do that then clearly he no longer wants to work for >>>>> Leeds >>>>> United. >>>>> >>>>> "To my mind, that means he has resigned his position. As far as I >>>>> personally am concerned, Andy O`Brien has left the club and we have moved >>>>> on. >>>>> >>>>> "We are looking forward without Andy O`Brien and the challenge for the >>>>> other players is to come in and stake their claim. What happens in the >>>>> future is what concerns me and not a player who doesn`t want to play for >>>>> Leeds United." >>>>> >>>>> It is expected that O`Brien will leave the club this week, either on loan >>>>> or by the club terminating his contract allowing him to move on. >>>>> >>>>> Read more: >>>>> http://www.leeds.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=263301#ixzz1eVufmmwH >>>>> >>>>> Dr Michael Benjamin, >>>>> Community Psychiatrist >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT >>>>> http://www.myRay.com >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Mental Health: >>>>> http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> Auditing || Quality Control >>>>> http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ >>>>> -------------------------------- >>>>> Blog: >>>>> http://www.DrMichaelBenjamin.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>> Info and options: >>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] PETE CASS (1962 - 2011) Rest In Peace Mate
