Spain have played some of the best passing football the world has ever seen - even in the Uruguay match some of the layoffs were superb, and how they only got 2 is beyond me. Spain have also played some of the most boring footie too on occasion - mind numbing stuff . Some teams will find them out, most won't! To deny their absolute class is obtuse, but to deny how boring they are 'at times' is to ignore reality. Right, off the fence...
________________________________ From: Sutton / Smail <[email protected]> To: Chris Briggs <[email protected]> Cc: leeds List (Post to list) <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2013, 10:03 Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil I see your point, but you are comparing a current day 2nd tier English club with the World Champions. Well done to Spain and Barcelona for their respective triumphs, but they have created a bland rigid style with no option to change and presumably no intention of ever trying to. (Whilst Pat Nevin's observations were interesting, it doesn't change the fact that it's boring.) This was clearly shown when they were losing 3-0 to Brazil the other night and a change of tempo / style was needed and they weren't able to. A lot of managers say that they concentrate on what their own team does and not worry so much about the oppo. I believe this idea to have faults. It's the team that can adapt best to what the opposition is doing that bosses the game. Spain could not adapt to what Brazil were throwing at them and just continued as they were and went on to concede more goals. I don't consider myself audacious one bit, but the Spanish way which has worked for them for so long is being replaced by a multi paced / styled system as shown by the likes of Brazil and Bayern. And the big point - it's great to watch! One or two players with 10% of the likes of Iniesta's quality would be dragged down by the other donkeys in the team. Think big, we need a bunch of them. I wouldn't sell my soul though to finance or achieve this. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Briggs" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Cc: "Sutton / Smail" <[email protected]>; "Leeds List (Post to list)" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil How any of us has the audacity to deride the style of play that has brought success to Barcelona / Spain, etc is laughable whilst we pay to watch woeful professionals struggle to string together a handful of passes. Whilst at times it can appear boring, how many of us have complained about a players inability to play an incisive pass or merely keep procession, as Rich W would say these are the basics and something that our former 'best' (according to records) player so clearly lacked. I would willingly sell my soul to the devil to be able to see a player that possesses 10% of Iniesta's ability and vision don a Leeds shirt, anyone who thinks otherwise is more than welcome to wallow in mediocrity. On 2 Jul 2013, at 08:32, "Dr Michael Benjamin" <[email protected]> wrote: > You are right > The Barca era is slipping away > It will just slowly fade. > The Gemanic style is like Leeds's of the '70's > > Dr Michael Benjamin, > Community Psychiatrist > ------------------------------- > myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT > http://www.myray.com/ > http://www.myray.org/ > ------------------------------ > Mental Health: > http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com > -------------------------------- > Auditing || Quality Control > http://www.MyDoctorExplains.com/alamo/ > -------------------------------- > Blog: > http://www.drmichaelbenjamin.com/ > > > On 2 July 2013 10:17, Sutton / Smail <[email protected]> wrote: > >> One man's poison is another man's medicine. I wouldn't mind the endless >> passing game if it was tempered and balanced with other styles but from >> start to finish Spain just bang on and on with >> the same game. I rarely get further than the 10 minute mark watching >> them. >> All very cleaver sucking in the oppo etc, but dull to watch. It has made >> them World Champions so I'll give them that. >> Bayern for example are the contrast. They mix up so many different styles >> and paces, they are great to watch. They can play the Spanish passing >> style >> for a bit, then the long ball for a bit etc etc. It's always changing >> with >> them. Let's not start on 1975 again please, that's all been said. >> >> Dave >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Murray" < >> [email protected]> >> To: "Sutton / Smail" <[email protected]> >> Cc: "Leeds List (Post to list)" <[email protected]>; "Rob Gillard" < >> [email protected]> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 1:04 AM >> Subject: Re: [LU] NON LU: Spain Brazil >> >> >> Really? So how should football be played. >> >> Yeah Barca and Spain don't have a 'plan B' but their 'plan A' is football >> played well and is great to watch imho. Beats the long ball >> play-it-up-to-the-big-man crap we have been dishing out for so long. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 01/07/2013, at 20:05, "Sutton / Smail" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I take great heart in seeing Spain (and Barcelona) lose. I have nothing >>> against the country or club, but they do play the same endless boring >>> boring passing game. I think opponents simply get bored >>> or mesmerised playing them and fall into a trance. Maybe that's part of >>> their plan? Brazil are much more of an exciting team to watch with so >>> many >>> different styles and pace changes to their game - not unlike Bayern. >>> >>> However, Pat Nevin did a very eye opening piece on the Spanish passing >>> style which is well worth a look for those that haven't seen it. >>> >>> Very admirable perhaps, even so, still boring. I noticed even at 3-0 >>> down >>> the Spanish had no plan B, Plan A obviously wasn't working against >>> Brazil. >>> This was not a good example of Pat Nevin's observations as they were >>> under >>> heavy pressure last night which >>> they aren't so used to. >>> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/**football/23024166<http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23024166> >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Leedslist mailing list >>> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.**/ >>> uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist> >>> To unsubscribe, email >>> [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >>> >>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.**/ >> uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist<http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist> >> To unsubscribe, email >> [email protected].**org<[email protected]> >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: > http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
