Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because he was 
a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes.

If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge ?

Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising his 
talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser.

Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me or 
anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it.

Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally unreasonable 
pressure re Wimbledon magnificently.
Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing about GB 
tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference for the other 50 
weeks of the year.

Sent from my iPhone

On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it.
> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially called 
> 'Herman hill'? 
>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming 
>> Grayson Grove ?
> 
> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely different 
> to a media nickname.
>> 
>> Didn't think so.
>> 
>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then.
> 
> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I
>> 
>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths would 
>> be so challenging.
>> 
>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then more 
>> than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers.
> 
> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a loser, 
> yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it every time.
>> 
>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion.
> 
> I don't think it is.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true sportsman.
>>>> 
>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! 
>>>> 
>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in defeat as 
>>>> in victory.
>>>> 
>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final.
>>>> 
>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been - 1 v 
>>>> 2 in the world.
>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi.
>>>> 
>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though.
>>>> 
>>>> Big of you.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would I? 
>>>>> but
>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english man won
>>>> tour de france.
>>>> 
>>>> If you'd written:
>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would I? 
>>>> but
>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english man won
>>>> tour de france.'
>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree with you.
>>>> 
>>>> You're not comparing like with like.
>>>> 
>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray wins 
>>>> Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit kit) win gold 
>>>> in London 2012.
>>>> 
>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they will 
>>>>> not.
>>>> 
>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for both 
>>>> Scotland & Britain.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want him to 
>>>>> lose.
>>>> 
>>>> Couldn't agree more.
>>>> 
>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman hill' 
>>>>> when she interviewed him after.
>>>> 
>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name 
>>>> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament.
>>> 
>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to 
>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray Mound.
>>>> 
>>>>> Now he WAS a loser.
>>>> 
>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) and 
>>>> one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather.
>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world.
>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to pray 
>>>> that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year.
>>> 
>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser.
>>>> 
>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ...
>>> Murray is.
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> 
>>>> Al 
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