So you're gonna ignore his Ryder cup record ? Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he >> reached his 3rd final. >> >> Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in 2001 >> saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming back the >> following day was a whole new ball game. >> >> On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? > In a word: yes >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But they >>> gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if they are >>> there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You make some >>> good points but this is total bobbins. >>> >>> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he bottled >>> it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental strength to win a >>> slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a plain fact mate. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because he >>>> was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes. >>>> >>>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge ? >>>> >>>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising his >>>> talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >>>> >>>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me >>>> or anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>>> >>>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing >>>> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference for >>>> the other 50 weeks of the year. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>>>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming >>>>>> Grayson Grove ? >>>>> >>>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>>> >>>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>>> >>>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then. >>>>> >>>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>>> >>>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths >>>>>> would be so challenging. >>>>>> >>>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then >>>>>> more than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>>> >>>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a >>>>> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it >>>>> every time. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>>> >>>>> I don't think it is. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true sportsman. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in defeat >>>>>>>> as in victory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been - >>>>>>>> 1 v 2 in the world. >>>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would >>>>>>>>> I? but >>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english man >>>>>>>> won >>>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would >>>>>>>> I? but >>>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english man >>>>>>>> won >>>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree with >>>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray >>>>>>>> wins Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit kit) >>>>>>>> win gold in London 2012. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they >>>>>>>>> will not. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for both >>>>>>>> Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want >>>>>>>>> him to lose. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman >>>>>>>>> hill' when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name >>>>>>>> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to >>>>>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray >>>>>>> Mound. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) >>>>>>>> and one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to >>>>>>>> pray that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Al >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
