Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he reached his 3rd final.
Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in 2001 saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming back the following day was a whole new ball game. On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? Sent from my iPhone On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But they > gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if they are > there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You make some good > points but this is total bobbins. > > He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he bottled it. > He could win tour titles but he never had the mental strength to win a slam - > he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a plain fact mate. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because he >> was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes. >> >> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge ? >> >> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising his >> talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >> >> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me or >> anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >> >> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing about >> GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference for the >> other 50 weeks of the year. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming >>>> Grayson Grove ? >>> >>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely different >>> to a media nickname. >>>> >>>> Didn't think so. >>>> >>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then. >>> >>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>> >>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths >>>> would be so challenging. >>>> >>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then more >>>> than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>> >>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a >>> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it every >>> time. >>>> >>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>> >>> I don't think it is. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true sportsman. >>>>>> >>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>> >>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in defeat >>>>>> as in victory. >>>>>> >>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>> >>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been - 1 >>>>>> v 2 in the world. >>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>> >>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would I? >>>>>>> but >>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english man >>>>>> won >>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would I? >>>>>> but >>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english man won >>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree with >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray wins >>>>>> Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit kit) win >>>>>> gold in London 2012. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they will >>>>>>> not. >>>>>> >>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for both >>>>>> Scotland & Britain. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want him >>>>>>> to lose. >>>>>> >>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>> >>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman hill' >>>>>>> when she interviewed him after. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name >>>>>> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>> >>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to >>>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray >>>>> Mound. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) and >>>>>> one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to pray >>>>>> that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>> >>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>> Murray is. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> Al >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
