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On 08/07/2013, at 23:52, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: > Goran was a better grass court player than Henman - by beating him he reached > his 3rd final. > > Just as the roof closing changed the final last year, the weather in 2001 > saved Goran - half an hour more and Henman would have won. Coming back the > following day was a whole new ball game. > > On a similar tack - Monty never won a golf major ... Is he a bottler ? > In a word: yes > Sent from my iPhone > > On 8 Jul 2013, at 16:29, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yeah they gathered to watch Henman, so fair enough 'Herman Hill'. But they >> gathered to watch Murray all fortnight, so Murray mound. Yeah - if they are >> there to watch Robson it's Robson ridge. It's a nickname. You make some good >> points but this is total bobbins. >> >> He did bottle it. The year ivanesivic won he should have - but he bottled >> it. He could win tour titles but he never had the mental strength to win a >> slam - he was a choker and a bottler and that's just a plain fact mate. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On 08/07/2013, at 23:17, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Henman was the first player people gathered there to see - just because he >>> was a lesser player than Murray doesn't mean the name changes. >>> >>> If Laura robson wins more titles than Murray is it suddenly robson ridge ? >>> >>> Henman didn't bottle it - he played according to his level, maximising his >>> talent. It wasn't quite enough, doesn't make him a loser. >>> >>> Any pro sportsman who gets to be top 5 has bags more bottle than you, me or >>> anyone else on this list - they couldn't get there without it. >>> >>> Both Henman & Murray have managed a decade or so each of totally >>> unreasonable pressure re Wimbledon magnificently. >>> Without them you'd have had 20 more years of media weeping and wailing >>> about GB tennis for a fortnight before reverting to total indifference for >>> the other 50 weeks of the year. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 15:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 08/07/2013, at 22:42, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On the contrary - disrespectful to Henman to change it. >>>> Nonsense. Was the hill there before Henman and has it been officially >>>> called 'Herman hill'? >>>>> If Grayson had won more than Revie would you accept Revie Rd becoming >>>>> Grayson Grove ? >>>> >>>> Not if it had been officially called that - but that's completely >>>> different to a media nickname. >>>>> >>>>> Didn't think so. >>>>> >>>>> Henman was the best since Perry - 60+ years. Murray wasn't around then. >>>> >>>> He's been playing in wombledon for nearly 10 years hasn't he? I >>>>> >>>>> Murray is the best since Perry - 70+ years ... Didn't think the maths >>>>> would be so challenging. >>>>> >>>>> If your definition of a loser is someone who doesn't win a slam then more >>>>> than 99% of all pro tennis players are losers. >>>> >>>> I'd say someone who was talented enough to win a slam but doesn't is a >>>> loser, yes. He undoubtedly could have won wombledon but he bottled it >>>> every time. >>>>> >>>>> It's a(nother) ridiculous assertion. >>>> >>>> I don't think it is. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On 8 Jul 2013, at 14:54, Ian Murray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On 08/07/2013, at 21:29, "Alan Edgar" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bollocks! He is a miserable uncouth yob who lost to a true sportsman. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What on earth is your rationale for that ? !! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Murray is a charming and witty interviewee, equally gracious in defeat >>>>>>> as in victory. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The stupendous Djoko- Del potro SF should have been the Final. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The final was exactly what the seeding dictated it should have been - 1 >>>>>>> v 2 in the world. >>>>>>> DP did play great and made it a quality semi. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Must grudgingly admit that The Git did play well today, though. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Big of you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would >>>>>>>> I? but >>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a scottish victory when the english man >>>>>>> won >>>>>>> tour de france. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you'd written: >>>>>>> "I wouldnt see this as a british victory if I was scottish, why would >>>>>>> I? but >>>>>>> then again I wouldnt see it as a british victory when the english man >>>>>>> won >>>>>>> tour de france.' >>>>>>> then it would have made sense - even though I would 100% disagree with >>>>>>> you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You're not comparing like with like. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's a Brit win when Wiggins wins the Tour, a Brit win when Murray wins >>>>>>> Wimbledon and a Brit win when they both (while wearing Brit kit) win >>>>>>> gold in London 2012. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Let's hope all the Scots see this as a British victory - bet they will >>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Only the bitter ones will not - the others will see it a win for both >>>>>>> Scotland & Britain. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Exactly. I think the real miserable bastards are the ones who want him >>>>>>>> to lose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Couldn't agree more. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I couldn't believe it when Sue effing Barker referred to 'henman hill' >>>>>>>> when she interviewed him after. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why ? It's been know as that ever sinbce the last century - the name >>>>>>> doesn't change just cos Murray won the tournament. >>>>>> >>>>>> Because it was known as Henman Hill when everyone there was there to >>>>>> support Henman. He is retired. It is disrespectful to Murray. Murray >>>>>> Mound. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now he WAS a loser. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lost 4 Wimbledon semis - 3 to the world number 1s (Hewitt, Sampras) and >>>>>>> one to an inspired Goran who was saved by the weather. >>>>>>> 2 other Slam semis - ranked 4 in the world. >>>>>>> Gave us a decade of hope and excitement after previously having to pray >>>>>>> that Bates would maybe get to round 3 one year. >>>>>> >>>>>> He never won a slam. Yeah he won some tour titles but he was a loser. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best Brit player for 60+ years - wish I was that sort of loser ... >>>>>> Murray is. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Al >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>>>>> Info and options: >>>>>>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
