Hi, The mother in law comes from a village 15km from Haro (the La Rioja wine capital) so whilst I know fek all about wine I've been to a lot of bodegas.
Anyhow, from the little I do know I'd say EVERYTHING you see in a supermarket be it in Spain or abroad from La Rioja is largely pish. The big bodegas sell the average stuff only to the chains and the medium to small ones simply don't sell to them at all as the margins are tiny. My french colleague (who is a top lad btw) always says the Riojas are just pure vanilla (ie additives/preservatives) and he does have a point but if you like that ... The threshold here from the bodega itself is €8-10 upwards (ie really drinkable) and €20+ from a bodega that won't sell to a supermarket will be cracking. Also, Ribeiro del Duero are also great for reds and white Albariño from Galicia is unbeatable. My sincerest apologies to those uninterested in wines... But when they lose in front of 6800 away fans, ye might as well digress. ;-) BMW --- Original Message --- From: "Richard walker" <[email protected]> Sent: 30 November 2013 21:51 To: "Brendan" <[email protected]> Cc: "Damian Walsh" <[email protected]>, "leedslist" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi Ok, here's my opinion of Rioja. I'm no expert, but for me Rioja is such a strong taste that you either like it or not. I have a mate who loves Spain who reckons that when you get above £20 for a bottle of Rioja the tastes start to get complex and subtle. Never spent that much mysen so can't comment but you're Rioja's in supermarkets / wine shops are just too samey for me. As for Luke Varney, he ain't got enough about him to compare to a bottle of Rioja from Aldi. Sent from my iPad > On 30 Nov 2013, at 20:44, Brendan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Damian, > > What's your view on Spanish wine? My french colleague is always sniffy and > dismissive of everything La Rioja has to offer... > > Very jealous of the wine cellar... > > BMW > > PS who's on our shopping list in Jan with this new investment? > > --- Original Message --- > > From: "Richard walker" <[email protected]> > Sent: 30 November 2013 20:28 > To: "Damian Walsh" <[email protected]> > Cc: "leedslist" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [LU] Satdi > > Serious wine drinking ! I'm impressed. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 30 Nov 2013, at 19:16, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I managed to build up a half decent collection of wine 20 odd years ago >> because friends of mine had a 13th Century farmhouse with huge dry-stone >> vaulted cellars. They live 20 odd km from where I lived so there was no "by >> gum that wer a grand bottle, lets bring oop another one" (my first "cellar" >> in the UK only lasted until a particulary boozy night with an alcky friend). >> >> I moved and bought a house with 2 stone vaults, got up to 900 bottles (all >> good good stuff BTW) then moved here - to a modern house, with a modern >> cellar - only to end up pouring more than 300 bottles down the drain and >> taking the enamel off my teeth with another 300. >> >> I've not got the money to vin de garde anymore, for the bottles I lost, I >> got a bit back on the insurance - the so called expert agreed that the >> auction value of the last 300 was 14 000€....... I got 1980€ back. >> >> All that too long story to say that you can dream about a cellar, but don't >> buy one built after the war, its not worth it :( >> >> Damian >> >> PS I think at least some of the Lards have drunk the odd bottle in my >> Pussay cellar (the 2 vaults...) - this is going to bring on another mail.... >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Richard walker >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> 'From the cellar ' ??? >>> >>> It's my ambition in life to have a wine cellar. >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 30 Nov 2013, at 17:45, Damian Walsh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Just opened a '08 Capitan-Gagnerant Cotes de Nuits Villages. Straight up >>>> from the cellar so a little bit cold but the bottle's in front of the >>> fire >>>> and I have hopes ;) >>>> >>>> It's the last bottle I've got from that year. Will I be able to wait a >>>> couple of years for the '11? In fact will I see out this evening without >>> ;) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Richard Walker <[email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Where's the wine. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leedslist mailing list >>>> Info and options: >>> http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >>>> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >>>> >>>> MARCHING ON TOGETHER >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> MARCHING ON TOGETHER > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > MARCHING ON TOGETHER _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] MARCHING ON TOGETHER
