That horrible moment in the first minute was Man of the Match Meslier's fault, and Cooper actually dealt with the situation very well. The 2nd blunder..........well yeah that was a blunder. But apart from that, esp in the 1st half, Cooper was excellent.
On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 9:14 AM John Lee via Leedslist <[email protected]> wrote: > All the talk about Gomez’s backpass being the fault for the first goal, > but what was Virgil Billy Big Bollox Van Dijk doing - Rodrigo ran straight > past him - Van Dijk was half asleep. > > The one thing I take from that game, regardless of the luck, Mesliers > saves etc, is that the players clearly buy into Marsch’s ‘vision’. Whilst I > remain to be convinced about this ‘style’, the players played out of their > skins yesterday, and Marsch kept repeating we, we, we! I think eventually, > with all his tinkering, he will settle on his favoured starting xi? > In Cooper we have one of those players who makes us look more solid, but > always has a f*** up in him - 2 yesterday - what was he doing in the 1st > minute, and his bambi impression later was embarrassing. Struijk would be a > much better centre half, but then that brings Firpo back into the equation, > which isn’t a good thing imho. > > Beat Bournemouth and we can have a few weeks looking at the league table > without fearing the worst? > > > > > On 30 Oct 2022, at 01:03, Alec McQueen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > We are not out of the woods yet, but today shows what's possible. Plan > > A worked today because Liverpool were trying their Plan A and it wasn't > > working so well. And we got some luck which we haven't had last few > > games. > > And Meslier was immense and we had 2 good enough moments to make the > > difference today. It was also a decent defensive performance against a > > decent team (despite whatever anyone says). Agreed that Liverpool were > > not on their game today, so inconsistent... I reckon they > > underestimated us. But we can be great and we can be crap. > > Inconsistency R Us, that's us this year...of course more downs than > > ups, but I still think JM is not quite the muppet that some people > > think. > > But this is far from over... we need to build some consistency, and JM > > knows it. I still think we need to give JM until at least January... if > > we are bottom then, then maybe we need a change. All the lower half > > teams are picking up points... nobody is left behind. I thought a few > > weeks ago, we could rely on Forest and Leicester taking up 2 of the > > relegation slots.... Now, it's 3 amongst 10 or so clubs. Any of them > > could slide down and get into serious trouble, us included. I think > > anyone below Palace in 10th can go down. Right now, my bet is Forest, > > Bournemouth, and Wolves. > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 30 Oct 2022, at 10:08, Richard Naef > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Even more so tonight ;) > > _______________________________________________________________ > > > > From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> > > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 5:55:05 PM > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] > > <[email protected]>; [email protected] > > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; > > Richard Naef <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games > > > > They are now. > > Nick > > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 07:25:37 PM EDT, Richard Naef > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Agree, things aren't as bleak as they seemed after Leicester or as > > great as after Chelsea or Arsenal > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Leedslist <[1][email protected]> On Behalf Of > > seanscribe--- via Leedslist > > Sent: 22 October 2022 15:31 > > To: [2][email protected]; [3][email protected]; > > [4][email protected] > > Cc: [5][email protected] > > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games > > Dave, > > It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy of > > a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a > > failed Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and > > closet anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our failure > > of a record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone > > penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by, > > and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds > > United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham > > Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window > > that we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The club > > has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the > > desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's > > no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was insisting on > > having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a > > centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four > > players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and > > Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form I > > would put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that > > position.) It's reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team > > selection versus Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, > > where have we heard that before?), but it's completely unfair to blame > > him for big money purchases that the club failed to make in the window. > > I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in > > recent matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his > > pull-back on Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone > > our way, we'd be having a totally different conversation. But I also > > realize that it's got to go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). On > > the plus side, how long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready > > to step up a level? Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight > > league games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s. > > Cheers! > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > > From: nattan--- via Leedslist <[6][email protected]> > > To: Robert Heath <[7][email protected]>; Alec McQueen > > <[8][email protected]> > > Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[9][email protected]> > > Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am > > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games > > I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault > > that v Arsenal Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a > > penalty. Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace, > > Llorente nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and > > that is down to the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we > > are so easy to play against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner > > and you create chances , - that is the manager's fault. Equally the > > fact that we have no left back worthy of a first team place and are > > still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his > > fault Even when it works well our lack of a cutting edge means we get > > nothing when we are on top in a match and our soft underbelly means our > > opponents always have a chance. > > We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal > > and Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs. Things are > > looking dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of > > good results together and get us up the table and build on it , but I > > really cant see that happening. I will be cheering him and the team on > > on Sunday but I expect the first of the Marsch out chants if we go > > behind ( oddly last match we were discussing who was the last manager > > who got the " out" chants. Never happened to Bielsa, Heckingbottom > > sacked before we had chance, ditto Christensen, Monk we wanted to > > stay, Evans was unpopular but crowd never turned, Rosler, milanic , > > hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular, same generally with > > McDermott, so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it would be Grayson, > > dont recall chants, so McAllister is the last one I can remember for > > sure getting the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only) one I > > chanted about was Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson I > > say at ,east in my head "out" > > Tricky times at ER > > Dave On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen > > <[10][email protected]> wrote: > > I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team, > > a new squad, a new playing style... I think it is clear to see that he > > is not yet happy with what is happening on the pitch... we need to give > > this guy a chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable > > of, our problem seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn't > > working. > > wha > > I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also > > have my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too > > early to be throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not > > all JM's fault... we clearly needed a proven striker and a left back > > and we didn't get them. > > Sent from my iPad > >> On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <[11][email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be, > >> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4 > > etc. > >> > >>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist < > >>> [12][email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Bielsa's last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points) > >>> > >>> Marsch's last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points) > >>> > >>> Just copied from another site! > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Leedslist mailing list > >>> Info and options: > >>> [13]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >>> To unsubscribe, email [14][email protected] > >>> > >>> Find us on Facebook [15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >>> > >>> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > >> [16]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [17][email protected] > >> > >> Find us on Facebook [18]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > [19]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [20][email protected] > > Find us on Facebook [21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > [22]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [23][email protected] > > Find us on Facebook [24]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > [25]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [26][email protected] > > Find us on Facebook [27]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > [28]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [29][email protected] > > Find us on Facebook [30]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > > > References > > > > 1. mailto:[email protected] > > 2. mailto:[email protected] > > 3. mailto:[email protected] > > 4. mailto:[email protected] > > 5. mailto:[email protected] > > 6. mailto:[email protected] > > 7. mailto:[email protected] > > 8. mailto:[email protected] > > 9. mailto:[email protected] > > 10. mailto:[email protected] > > 11. mailto:[email protected] > > 12. mailto:[email protected] > > 13. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 14. mailto:[email protected] > > 15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > 16. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 17. mailto:[email protected] > > 18. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > 19. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 20. mailto:[email protected] > > 21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > 22. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 23. mailto:[email protected] > > 24. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > 25. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 26. mailto:[email protected] > > 27. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > 28. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > 29. mailto:[email protected] > > 30. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
