They are now.
Nick
On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 07:25:37 PM EDT, Richard Naef
<[email protected]> wrote:
Agree, things aren't as bleak as they seemed after Leicester or as great as
after Chelsea or Arsenal
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Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
Dave,
It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy of a first
team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up
top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and closet anti-Americans): Our
useless left-back Junior Firpo, our failure of a record-breaking signing
Rodrigo and our injury-prone penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL
signings approved by, and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just
about every Leeds United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay,
Graham Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window that
we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The club has even
acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the desperation purchase of
Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's no evidence that (unlike some
recent managers) Marsch was insisting on having a tiny squad, let along telling
the board not to buy a centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that
of the four players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and
Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form I would
put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that position.) It's
reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team selection versus
Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, where have we heard that
before?), but it's completely unfair to blame him for big money purchases that
the club failed to make in the window.
I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in recent
matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his pull-back on
Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone our way, we'd be
having a totally different conversation. But I also realize that it's got to go
our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). On the plus side, how long before Mateo
Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready to step up a level? Joseph just scored his
third hat-trick in eight league games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten
Under-21s.
Cheers!
Sean
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To: Robert Heath <[email protected]>; Alec McQueen <[email protected]>
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Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am
Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault that v
Arsenal Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a penalty. Equally
individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace, Llorente nightmare v
Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and that is down to the players BUT
some errors are down to the system, we are so easy to play against- fire a ball
over midfield into the corner and you create chances , - that is the manager's
fault. Equally the fact that we have no left back worthy of a first team place
and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his
fault Even when it works well our lack of a cutting edge means we get nothing
when we are on top in a match and our soft underbelly means our opponents
always have a chance.
We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal and
Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs. Things are looking
dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of good results
together and get us up the table and build on it , but I really cant see that
happening. I will be cheering him and the team on on Sunday but I expect the
first of the Marsch out chants if we go behind ( oddly last match we were
discussing who was the last manager who got the " out" chants. Never happened
to Bielsa, Heckingbottom sacked before we had chance, ditto Christensen,
Monk we wanted to stay, Evans was unpopular but crowd never turned, Rosler,
milanic , hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular, same generally with
McDermott, so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it would be Grayson, dont
recall chants, so McAllister is the last one I can remember for sure getting
the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only) one I chanted about was
Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson I say at ,east in my head
"out"
Tricky times at ER
Dave On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen
<[email protected]> wrote:
I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team, a new
squad, a new playing style… I think it is clear to see that he is not yet happy
with what is happening on the pitch… we need to give this guy a chance. The
team has shown glimpses of what it is capable of, our problem seems to be
consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn’t working.
wha
I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also have my
serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too early to be
throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not all JM’s fault… we
clearly needed a proven striker and a left back and we didn’t get them.
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> On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be,
> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4 etc.
>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist <
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>> Bielsa’s last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points)
>>
>> Marsch’s last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points)
>>
>> Just copied from another site!
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