Cooper headed the ball back into our own box, with insufficient power to go into touch, taking our goalie out of the game, requiring a goal line clearance from Struijk, but that was Mesliers fault?? Meslier would simply have headed it clear without Coopers interjection!
But yes, apart from the 2 f*** ups that almost cost us goals, Cooper did ok ;-) > On 30 Oct 2022, at 09:33, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote: > > That horrible moment in the first minute was Man of the Match Meslier's > fault, and Cooper actually dealt with the situation very well. The 2nd > blunder..........well yeah that was a blunder. But apart from that, esp in > the 1st half, Cooper was excellent. > >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 9:14 AM John Lee via Leedslist >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> All the talk about Gomez’s backpass being the fault for the first goal, but >> what was Virgil Billy Big Bollox Van Dijk doing - Rodrigo ran straight past >> him - Van Dijk was half asleep. >> >> The one thing I take from that game, regardless of the luck, Mesliers saves >> etc, is that the players clearly buy into Marsch’s ‘vision’. Whilst I remain >> to be convinced about this ‘style’, the players played out of their skins >> yesterday, and Marsch kept repeating we, we, we! I think eventually, with >> all his tinkering, he will settle on his favoured starting xi? >> In Cooper we have one of those players who makes us look more solid, but >> always has a f*** up in him - 2 yesterday - what was he doing in the 1st >> minute, and his bambi impression later was embarrassing. Struijk would be a >> much better centre half, but then that brings Firpo back into the equation, >> which isn’t a good thing imho. >> >> Beat Bournemouth and we can have a few weeks looking at the league table >> without fearing the worst? >> >> >> >> > On 30 Oct 2022, at 01:03, Alec McQueen <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > We are not out of the woods yet, but today shows what's possible. Plan >> > A worked today because Liverpool were trying their Plan A and it wasn't >> > working so well. And we got some luck which we haven't had last few >> > games. >> > And Meslier was immense and we had 2 good enough moments to make the >> > difference today. It was also a decent defensive performance against a >> > decent team (despite whatever anyone says). Agreed that Liverpool were >> > not on their game today, so inconsistent... I reckon they >> > underestimated us. But we can be great and we can be crap. >> > Inconsistency R Us, that's us this year...of course more downs than >> > ups, but I still think JM is not quite the muppet that some people >> > think. >> > But this is far from over... we need to build some consistency, and JM >> > knows it. I still think we need to give JM until at least January... if >> > we are bottom then, then maybe we need a change. All the lower half >> > teams are picking up points... nobody is left behind. I thought a few >> > weeks ago, we could rely on Forest and Leicester taking up 2 of the >> > relegation slots.... Now, it's 3 amongst 10 or so clubs. Any of them >> > could slide down and get into serious trouble, us included. I think >> > anyone below Palace in 10th can go down. Right now, my bet is Forest, >> > Bournemouth, and Wolves. >> > Sent from my iPad >> > >> > On 30 Oct 2022, at 10:08, Richard Naef >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Even more so tonight ;) >> > _______________________________________________________________ >> > >> > From: Nicholas Armit <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2022 5:55:05 PM >> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> > <[email protected]>; [email protected] >> > <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]>; >> > Richard Naef <[email protected]> >> > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games >> > >> > They are now. >> > Nick >> > On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 07:25:37 PM EDT, Richard Naef >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Agree, things aren't as bleak as they seemed after Leicester or as >> > great as after Chelsea or Arsenal >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Leedslist <[1][email protected]> On Behalf Of >> > seanscribe--- via Leedslist >> > Sent: 22 October 2022 15:31 >> > To: [2][email protected]; [3][email protected]; >> > [4][email protected] >> > Cc: [5][email protected] >> > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games >> > Dave, >> > It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy of >> > a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a >> > failed Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and >> > closet anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our failure >> > of a record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone >> > penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by, >> > and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds >> > United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham >> > Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window >> > that we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The club >> > has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the >> > desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's >> > no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was insisting on >> > having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a >> > centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four >> > players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and >> > Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form I >> > would put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that >> > position.) It's reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team >> > selection versus Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, >> > where have we heard that before?), but it's completely unfair to blame >> > him for big money purchases that the club failed to make in the window. >> > I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in >> > recent matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his >> > pull-back on Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone >> > our way, we'd be having a totally different conversation. But I also >> > realize that it's got to go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). On >> > the plus side, how long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready >> > to step up a level? Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight >> > league games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s. >> > Cheers! >> > Sean >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: nattan--- via Leedslist <[6][email protected]> >> > To: Robert Heath <[7][email protected]>; Alec McQueen >> > <[8][email protected]> >> > Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[9][email protected]> >> > Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am >> > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games >> > I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault >> > that v Arsenal Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a >> > penalty. Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace, >> > Llorente nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and >> > that is down to the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we >> > are so easy to play against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner >> > and you create chances , - that is the manager's fault. Equally the >> > fact that we have no left back worthy of a first team place and are >> > still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his >> > fault Even when it works well our lack of a cutting edge means we get >> > nothing when we are on top in a match and our soft underbelly means our >> > opponents always have a chance. >> > We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal >> > and Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs. Things are >> > looking dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of >> > good results together and get us up the table and build on it , but I >> > really cant see that happening. I will be cheering him and the team on >> > on Sunday but I expect the first of the Marsch out chants if we go >> > behind ( oddly last match we were discussing who was the last manager >> > who got the " out" chants. Never happened to Bielsa, Heckingbottom >> > sacked before we had chance, ditto Christensen, Monk we wanted to >> > stay, Evans was unpopular but crowd never turned, Rosler, milanic , >> > hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular, same generally with >> > McDermott, so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it would be Grayson, >> > dont recall chants, so McAllister is the last one I can remember for >> > sure getting the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only) one I >> > chanted about was Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson I >> > say at ,east in my head "out" >> > Tricky times at ER >> > Dave On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen >> > <[10][email protected]> wrote: >> > I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team, >> > a new squad, a new playing style... I think it is clear to see that he >> > is not yet happy with what is happening on the pitch... we need to give >> > this guy a chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable >> > of, our problem seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn't >> > working. >> > wha >> > I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also >> > have my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too >> > early to be throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not >> > all JM's fault... we clearly needed a proven striker and a left back >> > and we didn't get them. >> > Sent from my iPad >> >> On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <[11][email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be, >> >> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4 >> > etc. >> >> >> >>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist < >> >>> [12][email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Bielsa's last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points) >> >>> >> >>> Marsch's last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points) >> >>> >> >>> Just copied from another site! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> Leedslist mailing list >> >>> Info and options: >> >>> [13]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >>> To unsubscribe, email [14][email protected] >> >>> >> >>> Find us on Facebook [15]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >>> >> >>> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Leedslist mailing list >> >> Info and options: >> >> [16]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> >> To unsubscribe, email [17][email protected] >> >> >> >> Find us on Facebook [18]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > [19]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [20][email protected] >> > Find us on Facebook [21]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > [22]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [23][email protected] >> > Find us on Facebook [24]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > [25]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [26][email protected] >> > Find us on Facebook [27]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: >> > [28]https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [29][email protected] >> > Find us on Facebook [30]https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> > >> > References >> > >> > 1. mailto:[email protected] >> > 2. mailto:[email protected] >> > 3. mailto:[email protected] >> > 4. mailto:[email protected] >> > 5. mailto:[email protected] >> > 6. mailto:[email protected] >> > 7. mailto:[email protected] >> > 8. mailto:[email protected] >> > 9. mailto:[email protected] >> > 10. mailto:[email protected] >> > 11. mailto:[email protected] >> > 12. mailto:[email protected] >> > 13. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 14. mailto:[email protected] >> > 15. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > 16. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 17. mailto:[email protected] >> > 18. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > 19. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 20. mailto:[email protected] >> > 21. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > 22. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 23. mailto:[email protected] >> > 24. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > 25. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 26. mailto:[email protected] >> > 27. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > 28. https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > 29. mailto:[email protected] >> > 30. https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Leedslist mailing list >> > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> > >> > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> > >> > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leedslist mailing list >> Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] >> >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ >> >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
