I just hope Marsch doesn't say "I'm a fighter, not a quitter!" On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 12:25 AM Richard Naef < [email protected]> wrote:
> Agree, things aren't as bleak as they seemed after Leicester or as great > as after Chelsea or Arsenal > > -----Original Message----- > From: Leedslist <[email protected]> On Behalf Of seanscribe--- > via Leedslist > Sent: 22 October 2022 15:31 > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games > > Dave, > It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy of a > first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed > Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and closet > anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our failure of a > record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone penalty-missing > centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by, and signed during the > reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds United supporter and Leeds > United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was > saying all summer transfer window that we needed a reliable goalscoring > striker and a left-back. The club has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK > and Gapko (before the desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the > window). There's no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was > insisting on having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a > centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four players > who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and Hjelde - are > injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form I would put Firpo > behind all three on the "depth chart" in that position.) It's reasonable to > cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team selection versus Leicester, the > tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm, where have we heard that before?), > but it's completely unfair to blame him for big money purchases that the > club failed to make in the window. > I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in > recent matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his pull-back > on Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone our way, we'd > be having a totally different conversation. But I also realize that it's > got to go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). On the plus side, how > long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready to step up a level? > Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight league games for our > top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s. > Cheers! > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: nattan--- via Leedslist <[email protected]> > To: Robert Heath <[email protected]>; Alec McQueen < > [email protected]> > Cc: Leeds List 2010 <[email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Oct 22, 2022 5:51 am > Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games > > I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault > that v Arsenal Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a > penalty. Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace, > Llorente nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and that > is down to the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we are so > easy to play against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner and you > create chances , - that is the manager's fault. Equally the fact that we > have no left back worthy of a first team place and are still relying on an > unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his fault Even when it works > well our lack of a cutting edge means we get nothing when we are on top in > a match and our soft underbelly means our opponents always have a chance. > We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal and > Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs. Things are looking > dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of good results > together and get us up the table and build on it , but I really cant see > that happening. I will be cheering him and the team on on Sunday but I > expect the first of the Marsch out chants if we go behind ( oddly last > match we were discussing who was the last manager who got the " out" > chants. Never happened to Bielsa, Heckingbottom sacked before we had > chance, ditto Christensen, Monk we wanted to stay, Evans was unpopular > but crowd never turned, Rosler, milanic , hockaday all too short lived, > Redders popular, same generally with McDermott, so did we chant Warnock > out ? If not it would be Grayson, dont recall chants, so McAllister is > the last one I can remember for sure getting the " out " chant ? Personally > the last (?only) one I chanted about was Adamson, to the extent that if > anyone says Adamson I say at ,east in my head "out" > > Tricky times at ER > > > Dave On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team, a > new squad, a new playing style… I think it is clear to see that he is not > yet happy with what is happening on the pitch… we need to give this guy a > chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable of, our problem > seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn’t working. > wha > I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also > have my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too early > to be throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not all JM’s > fault… we clearly needed a proven striker and a left back and we didn’t get > them. > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 21 Oct 2022, at 22:33, Robert Heath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be, > > but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4 etc. > > > >> On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 10:44 AM John Lee via Leedslist < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Bielsa’s last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points) > >> > >> Marsch’s last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points) > >> > >> Just copied from another site! > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Leedslist mailing list > >> Info and options: > >> https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > >> To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > >> > >> Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > >> > >> Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > > _______________________________________________ > > Leedslist mailing list > > Info and options: > > https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ > Leedslist mailing list > Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist > To unsubscribe, email [email protected] > > Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ > > Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat! > _______________________________________________ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: https://mailman.gn.apc.org/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email [email protected] Find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/leedslist/ Rest in Peace Guy, and wear your hat!
