We are not out of the woods yet, but today shows what's possible. Plan
A worked today because Liverpool were trying their Plan A and it wasn't
working so well. And we got some luck which we haven't had last few
games.
And Meslier was immense and we had 2 good enough moments to make the
difference today. It was also a decent defensive performance against a
decent team (despite whatever anyone says). Agreed that Liverpool were
not on their game today, so inconsistent... I reckon they
underestimated us. But we can be great and we can be crap.
Inconsistency R Us, that's us this year...of course more downs than
ups, but I still think JM is not quite the muppet that some people
think.
But this is far from over... we need to build some consistency, and JM
knows it. I still think we need to give JM until at least January... if
we are bottom then, then maybe we need a change. All the lower half
teams are picking up points... nobody is left behind. I thought a few
weeks ago, we could rely on Forest and Leicester taking up 2 of the
relegation slots.... Now, it's 3 amongst 10 or so clubs. Any of them
could slide down and get into serious trouble, us included. I think
anyone below Palace in 10th can go down. Right now, my bet is Forest,
Bournemouth, and Wolves.
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On 30 Oct 2022, at 10:08, Richard Naef
<[email protected]> wrote:
Even more so tonight ;)
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They are now.
Nick
On Saturday, October 22, 2022 at 07:25:37 PM EDT, Richard Naef
<[email protected]> wrote:
Agree, things aren't as bleak as they seemed after Leicester or as
great as after Chelsea or Arsenal
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Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
Dave,
It's absolutely NOT Marsch's fault "that we have no left back worthy of
a first team place and are still relying on an unfit Bamford or a
failed Rodrigo up top." Just a reminder to all the Marsch-haters (and
closet anti-Americans): Our useless left-back Junior Firpo, our failure
of a record-breaking signing Rodrigo and our injury-prone
penalty-missing centre-forward Bamford were ALL signings approved by,
and signed during the reign of, Marcelo Bielsa. Just about every Leeds
United supporter and Leeds United beat reporter (Phil Hay, Graham
Smyth, James Marshment, etc.) was saying all summer transfer window
that we needed a reliable goalscoring striker and a left-back. The club
has even acknowledged trying to sign CDK and Gapko (before the
desperation purchase of Gnonto on the last day of the window). There's
no evidence that (unlike some recent managers) Marsch was insisting on
having a tiny squad, let along telling the board not to buy a
centre-forward and a left-back. (Bear in mind also that of the four
players who can play in that position, three - Dallas, Struijk and
Hjelde - are injured/recovering from an appendectomy. On current form I
would put Firpo behind all three on the "depth chart" in that
position.) It's reasonable to cast a harsh light on Marsch for his team
selection versus Leicester, the tactics and the lack of a Plan B (hmmm,
where have we heard that before?), but it's completely unfair to blame
him for big money purchases that the club failed to make in the window.
I continue to believe that if just a couple of the turning points in
recent matches (e.g. the ref's failure to send off Saliba for his
pull-back on Bamford; the missed penalty versus Arsenal, etc.) had gone
our way, we'd be having a totally different conversation. But I also
realize that it's got to go our way soon or not at all (for Jesse). On
the plus side, how long before Mateo Joseph and Sonny Perkins are ready
to step up a level? Joseph just scored his third hat-trick in eight
league games for our top-of-the-table unbeaten Under-21s.
Cheers!
Sean
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Subject: Re: [LU] Last 7 games
I get what you are saying and you do have a point. It is not JMs fault
that v Arsenal Rodrigo gave away a goal and that Bamford missed a
penalty. Equally individual errors ( Roca this week, Cooper v Palace,
Llorente nightmare v Brentford) have cost us other games/ points and
that is down to the players BUT some errors are down to the system, we
are so easy to play against- fire a ball over midfield into the corner
and you create chances , - that is the manager's fault. Equally the
fact that we have no left back worthy of a first team place and are
still relying on an unfit Bamford or a failed Rodrigo up top is his
fault Even when it works well our lack of a cutting edge means we get
nothing when we are on top in a match and our soft underbelly means our
opponents always have a chance.
We have had on paper a reasonably easy run of fixtures- only Arsenal
and Chelsea of top 5 clubs and played all the bottom clubs. Things are
looking dodgy Do I want him sacked ? No , I want him to put a run of
good results together and get us up the table and build on it , but I
really cant see that happening. I will be cheering him and the team on
on Sunday but I expect the first of the Marsch out chants if we go
behind ( oddly last match we were discussing who was the last manager
who got the " out" chants. Never happened to Bielsa, Heckingbottom
sacked before we had chance, ditto Christensen, Monk we wanted to
stay, Evans was unpopular but crowd never turned, Rosler, milanic ,
hockaday all too short lived, Redders popular, same generally with
McDermott, so did we chant Warnock out ? If not it would be Grayson,
dont recall chants, so McAllister is the last one I can remember for
sure getting the " out " chant ? Personally the last (?only) one I
chanted about was Adamson, to the extent that if anyone says Adamson I
say at ,east in my head "out"
Tricky times at ER
Dave On Friday, 21 October 2022, 21:00:09 BST, Alec McQueen
<[10][email protected]> wrote:
I think we are being harsh on Marsch. He is trying to mould a new team,
a new squad, a new playing style... I think it is clear to see that he
is not yet happy with what is happening on the pitch... we need to give
this guy a chance. The team has shown glimpses of what it is capable
of, our problem seems to be consistency and Plan Bs if Plan A isn't
working.
wha
I am not saying I think JM will come good and all will be well, I also
have my serious doubts, but I think 10 games into the season is too
early to be throwing out the coach and starting again. And it is not
all JM's fault... we clearly needed a proven striker and a left back
and we didn't get them.
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> Yeah, but to be fair to marsch (which I am not that inclined to be,
> but..........) several of those "Ls" under Bielsa were 0-6, 0-7, 0-4
etc.
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>> Bielsa's last 7 games in charge = WLDLLLL (4 points)
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>> Marsch's last 7 games in charge = LDLDLLL (2 points)
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>> Just copied from another site!
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