That is what I did too, and was warning of the volatility of the Renumber buttons, to all that use the RINs as a file system (web-based stuff). Every six months or so this situation is revisited, but many newbies haven't heard it yet, nor guess that is lurking on the system. Rich in LA CA
----- Original Message ---- From: SgtBob <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Ron Ferguson <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, December 22, 2009 3:37:03 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about File ID I agree with Ron on his assessment of the RIN feature, backup, etc. One item of caution I might offer with regard to use of the MRIN organizing r filing feature - which may also impact the RIN but I'm not sure about it - BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL TO WHEN ADDING GEDCOM FILES TO NEVER EVER, REPEAT NEVER EVER, LEAVE THE 'Re-number MRIN' button CHECKED|!! (CAPS DELIBERATELY ADDED). Because I was either ignorant or was not paying attention to this feature on an upload of my 20K+ names about 18 months ago agfter a PC crash, all my MRIN numbers were changed. I did not discover this until all my backups files had been changed, rendering my filing system a complete disaster. I've spent the better part of the past year+ re-establishing my MRIN filing system. I just finished this project last week and learned a )(*&)(*& lot about good backup and storing same on a 'DO NOT OVERWRITE' copy at more than one location. I thought my backup was safe, but observed that I had saved the corrupted file to my many backups in the incorrect set-up (wailing and gnashing of teeth at that point....). FWIW I learned a valuable but painful lesson here which I thought I would share! :-) Bob ---- Ron Ferguson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I do not agree that using RINs sets one up for problems. In fact they > form the file names for Pedigree Web Pages and, for me changes would > ruin all my search engine references - a disaster as I have spent years > getting them established! > > The only thing one has to ensure is that the "Reuse abandoned RINs" is > unchecked. Naturally, the other precaution to take is always to > back-up, but this should be one's standard practice anyhow. RINs do > *not* get changed when another person is entered but a new RIN is > created, They are *never* changed unless you do it yourself. If meging > is carried out properly this has no effect on the RINs. > > I don't use MRINs, so cannot comment on their stability. > > Ron Ferguson > _____________________________________________________ > > New Tutorial: Embed Blogger RSS feed into your Website > http://www.fergys.co.uk > Includes the family tree for Alan J Grimshaw > http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ > For The Fergusons of N.W. England > http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ > ____________________________________________________ > > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES > To: [email protected] > Sent: 22 December 2009 05:08 > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about File ID > > > My way may not be best, but here is what I do. I have made manila > > folders for each Surname. Those that get too full, get split into, > > ultimately, individuals with their own folder. I do not put the RINs > > or MRINs on the folders at all. When I keypunch using a source, on > > the extra photocopies, I put the RINs on them as they are entered. > > When I merge people from those later, I do not 'correct' the changes. > > Since the main thing for me is that the Sources and notes, show I > > have used them to add to my family, and although the RIN changed, the > > Source and/or detail didn't. I had one source which duplicates 80% of > > over 1500 of my cousins (two censuses in small town in Norway). I > > agree with Laura, that using RINs as if permanent, can set oneself up > > for disaster. Preserving them, will drive a person nuts. It did to me. > > Rich in LA CA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Laura Dunwald <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Mon, December 21, 2009 2:30:00 AM > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about File ID > > > >  > > I should add, that I have found the use of RINs, and MRINs, NOT > > HELPFUL! Everything gets messed up as one adds new people, or deletes > > duplicates created when more information on an individual is found, > > or as was pointed out when new children are found, or when melding > > files together, and all the other things one does to mess up the RIN > > numbers. > > > > Laura > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 7:56 PM > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about File ID > > > > > > That is why I left the Dollarhide system (it was good but too > > cumbersome). . The ahentafel numbers were over 30-40 characters long. > > It was not the only system I used before I bought my first computer, > > but when the programs created RINs, I no longer needed to deal with > > them anymore. > > Rich in LA CA > > > > > > > > > > From: Heather Stovold <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sat, December 19, 2009 5:08:13 PM > > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Question about File ID > > > > > > The main problem I found with the Dollarhide system (which I used > > years ago for a while) - is that if you discover a child you didn't > > know about that changes the numbers of other people you have already > > entered. Also, the numbers can get pretty long, although the longer > > the number, the less related the people likely are to you.... > > > > How have you found this to work with Legacy? 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