"Herzog Johann III der Freiliche Von Kleve herzog von Juelich und von Berg" [Herzog is Duke in German]
Duke is a Title (regardless if born with it or appointed) I would put Duke in the Prefix, Johann III Der Freiliche in Given Name (Unless der Freiliche is a reference to his father) Von Kleve in Surname and herzog von Juelich und von Berg in AKA since this is apparently a second Title/ birthright That should get some opinions.... Jay On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM, lee zuker <[email protected]> wrote: > It appears that there is no standard for handling surnames, but I am > wondering if some have a good solution to this problem: > > I am having a problem with surname entry into Legacy, that perhaps you can > help me with or point me to someone that could. > > I have many ancestors, like most of use, back in the 14th century and > older. > > And I don't know what to do with the pieces of their names were basically > their "surname" is "from somewhere". > > take a simple one… > > Anne of Cleves, daughter of John III, Duke of Cleves > > Since there is no family surname, i am using "of Cleves" as a surname. > > But if there were a known surname, as sometimes there is, would "of > Cleves" become a suffix? > > and for her father, would the surname be "Duke of Cleves"? > > With Legacy, since there is a separate prefix, Duke could be a prefix, but > then the order of is changed. > > and then there is the nagging "Sir"…... that could also be the prefix. > > or the surname "of Cleves", and the suffix then be "Duke", or some other > way. > > > According to Wikipedia his real name is" > "Herzog Johann III der Freiliche Von Kleve herzog von Juelich und von > Berg" [Herzog is Duke in German] > personally I tend to put all this in AKA > > > perhaps this will get a discussion going > > Lee Zuker > Shelton, WA > > > Legacy User Group guidelines: > http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp > Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp > Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and > on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). > To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp > Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
