My preference is to add events like "Title of Nobility" , "Title Prefix" and "Title Suffix" as I choose to keep the original name as close as I can to that with which the person was born. This also allows, with the first option, a person having multiple Titles as some Royal nobility have multiple Titles which can change over time. You can then put a date range where they were known by one Title, which subsequently changed to another Title.
Alan Pereira From: Jay 1FamilyTree [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 29 May 2013 01:50 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Treatment of Historic "Surnames" "Herzog Johann III der Freiliche Von Kleve herzog von Juelich und von Berg" [Herzog is Duke in German] Duke is a Title (regardless if born with it or appointed) I would put Duke in the Prefix, Johann III Der Freiliche in Given Name (Unless der Freiliche is a reference to his father) Von Kleve in Surname and herzog von Juelich und von Berg in AKA since this is apparently a second Title/ birthright That should get some opinions.... Jay On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:14 PM, lee zuker <[email protected]> wrote: It appears that there is no standard for handling surnames, but I am wondering if some have a good solution to this problem: I am having a problem with surname entry into Legacy, that perhaps you can help me with or point me to someone that could. I have many ancestors, like most of use, back in the 14th century and older. And I don't know what to do with the pieces of their names were basically their "surname" is "from somewhere". take a simple one… Anne of Cleves, daughter of John III, Duke of Cleves Since there is no family surname, i am using "of Cleves" as a surname. But if there were a known surname, as sometimes there is, would "of Cleves" become a suffix? and for her father, would the surname be "Duke of Cleves"? With Legacy, since there is a separate prefix, Duke could be a prefix, but then the order of is changed. and then there is the nagging "Sir"…... that could also be the prefix. or the surname "of Cleves", and the suffix then be "Duke", or some other way. According to Wikipedia his real name is" "Herzog Johann III der Freiliche Von Kleve herzog von Juelich und von Berg" [Herzog is Duke in German] personally I tend to put all this in AKA perhaps this will get a discussion going Lee Zuker Shelton, WA Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Archived messages from old mail server - before Nov. 21 2009: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp Follow Legacy on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/LegacyFamilyTree) and on our blog (http://news.LegacyFamilyTree.com). To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
